The tactics of Kerry-bashing and Savior from Terrorism worked: Bush has 11 point lead

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I love ****ing over test scores.

Me too. Kind of. I'm in that sort of mood right now.

[Alexander's Horse]

I don't think Bush is dumb - I don't think Kerry is smart either.

Where Bush has a huge advantage over Kerry imo is he seems to be able to connect with ordinary people. He's likeable, I can see it, it can't be denied.

If I had to choose who to have a beer with, it would be Bush.

[Drake Tungsten]

A good point from... Horse?!

[Alexander's Horse]

believe it or not

[Gibsie]

Bush got 1200 and that's in the top 5-10%? Why does everyone talk like it's a low score?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Sava

I'm torn between my initial reaction of when I read the article and my subsequent reaction of when I saw Sava had posted exactly what I had intended to post...

[Ned]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Just googled it and when I came back you had already posted. Yikes.

I beat the leader of the free world by more than 150 points on the SAT. I'm not sure whether that's or . That's fairly scary.

But it gets worse. That score is from when I took the SAT at the age of 13.

Jag, from my understanding, the SAT scores from that era do not translate straight into modern era scores. Add 100 points for both Bush and Gore to get their modern equivalent. Bush: 1306, adjusted. Gore: 1455, adjusted.

I had 1395 in the same era as Bush and Gore, which is equivalent to 1495 in today's era.

BTW, what was Clinton's. Everyone acknowledges that he is (was?) quite intelligent.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Jaguar

Are you completely insane? Are you completely unaware of what's going on in the world? Or are you just so delusional that you no longer have any grip on reality? Have your eyes failed you, or have you failed your eyes?

Reagan won 49 states in his re-election bid. Bush would be lucky to win 39, and I wouldn't be surprised if he won by a paper-thin EC margin of less than 20 votes. To win as many states as Reagan did, he'll have to pick up states like Connecticut, California, Maryland, Delaware, and New York. And Bush is no Ronald Reagan.

I hope you read the article quoted by Drake. The last time we saw poll numbers like these, Nixon won 49 states. That too was a time of war. The Dems hated Nixon with a passion that exceeded their hatred of Bush. Trust me. They nominated a hard line appeaser who said he would crawl all the way to Hanoi for peace.

The major difference with Kerry is that he has an anti-war record that he is trying to run away from with his latest reincarnation as a hardline terror fighter. The reason he is now behind in the polls is that many people no longer buy this fresh new image because of the Swiftboat Vets and because of the Republican convention.

[Alexander's Horse]

dislike of Bush isn't enough, just like Nixon

[Kidlicious]

There's going to be lots of people not voting in this one. That's Kerry's fault and it's going to hurt him.

[Drake Tungsten]

I hope you read the article quoted by Drake. The last time we saw poll numbers like these, Nixon won 49 states.

It should also be noted that, according to Gallup, Kerry is the only candidate in history to actually lose voter support after his convention.

[DanS]

Bush got 1200 and that's in the top 5-10%? Why does everyone talk like it's a low score?

I don't know why they would. It's a very respectable score.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Jaguar
My hatred for Jimmy Carter is semi-irrational. Don't question it.

You weren't even alive then.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Polling Report put the Time poll up. Apparently, the Bush and Kerry totals pushed leaners in the post-convention poll, but did not push leaners in the pre-convention poll (which was 46-44-5 in a 3-way race, 46-46 in a two-way race). It's a bounce, but not as big (and still bigger than in the other polls). The specific question, FWIW:

"Suppose the 2004 election for president were being held today, and you had to choose between John Kerry and John Edwards, the Democrats, and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, the Republicans. For whom would you vote?" If undecided: "Even though you haven't made up your mind yet, do you lean more toward supporting Kerry or Bush?"

And I'm still waiting for some battleground state polls.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You weren't even alive then.

He's still alive now, and I hate him for semi-irrational reasons. I told you not to reason with me, and yet you tried!