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Sprayber: Exactly. Attacking civilians is never just. No matter what the society (and societies each have their own rules, which I understand from an Anthropological point of view) I can't ever back killing civilians. However, the CAUSE is the same.
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No what? No matter autonomy granted, it could easily be taken back in the future. The only way a nation can be sovereign is by having its own government and borders not under the control of an outside force.
BTW, for future reference, anyone that accuses me of siding with those who took the school are utterly mistaken."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Don't be stupid. If the word "terrorist" had existed back in those days, you can guarentee that the British would've used the word to describe what happened in the Colonies.
There was "terrorism" on both sides, and the British themselves can be held largely responsible for just as much.
The war in the south was particularly bloody, with the British at one point sponsoring loyalist militias in the south to do the fighting for them. The idea as that if a local, colonial face was doing the fighting, it would be more legitimate and also the intelligence would be much more effective. (Sound familiar?)
Unfortunatley this got out of hand as simple fighting turned into massacres and punitive raids against innocent civilians (men, women, and children) took place between loyalists and separitists, but most of it being started by British loyalists.
This part of the Revolutionary War doesn't get much airtime, and it proved to be a fatal mistake that can be largely attributed to the British losing the south, which eventualy cost them the war.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Israel, Russia, and half a dozen other nations that combat terrorism take the same steps, yet you never hear about it because those are who are in control. ****, Putin himself and his government are responsible for many civilian casualties in Chechnya."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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The Boston Tea Party didn't sink the ships and din't kill the crews -- they just dumped the cargoes.
Your comparison dosen't work.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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I hardly can imagine Putin ordering his troops to go shell a damn school full of children.Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Israel, Russia, and half a dozen other nations that combat terrorism take the same steps, yet you never hear about it because those are who are in control. ****, Putin himself and his government are responsible for many civilian casualties in Chechnya.
Whatever..
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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...if...it took place TODAY...it WOULD have employed killing and destroying a ship
You're talking as if the Tea Party could have an effect in todays world: It COULDN'T. It would be regarded in the same effect as the protesters in NYC who got Naked over AIDS.
The comparison does work."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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Look, you just accused me of supporting that, which I don't. I also said that these people aren't part of the major Chechen resistence, which they probably aren't. Nonetheless, Putin has approved the indescriminate bombing of supposed terrorist hiding places, which include the killing of women and children.Originally posted by Ted Striker
I hardly can imagine Putin ordering his troops to go shell a damn school full of children.
Whatever..
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It's a hypothetical stretch.Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
...if...it took place TODAY...it WOULD have employed killing and destroying a ship
You're talking as if the Tea Party could have an effect in todays world: It COULDN'T. It would be regarded in the same effect as the protesters in NYC who got Naked over AIDS.
The comparison does work.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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No, they are not freedom fighters. Blowing up apartment complexes was not a way of garunteeing sovereignty.****ting on the Russians for attacking and destroying the people who supported those attacks and then calling the terrorists the victims kinda does make it seem like you support the people that took the school.Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
No what? No matter autonomy granted, it could easily be taken back in the future. The only way a nation can be sovereign is by having its own government and borders not under the control of an outside force.
BTW, for future reference, anyone that accuses me of siding with those who took the school are utterly mistaken.Comment
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Considering that we can't prove it, it can't be anything but hypothesis.Originally posted by Ted Striker
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Look, you just accused me of supporting that, which I don't. I also said that these people aren't part of the major Chechen resistence, which they probably aren't. Nonetheless,
Indescriminate ? I doubt it.Putin has approved the indescriminate bombing of supposed terrorist hiding places, which include the killing of women and children.
So has this benevolent Chechen resistance denounced this act?
The only active fighters don't seem to be doing much latlely other than blowing up innocent civiilians.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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In today's world, terrorism is seen as the best method to fight a revolution. I don't agree with terrorism, but I believe in the cause behind it, just as I would agree with citizens in the US overthrowing an unjust government.Originally posted by Whoha
No, they are not freedom fighters. Blowing up apartment complexes was not a way of garunteeing sovereignty.****ting on the Russians for attacking and destroying the people who supported those attacks and then calling the terrorists the victims kinda does make it seem like you support the people that took the school.
Those fighting for a cause are never seen as just until they win."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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I highlighted the bombing of Grozny in the previous incarnation of this thread.Originally posted by Ted Striker
Indescriminate ? I doubt it.
Facts seem to provide an opposing viewpoint. I'd argue quite seriously that it acts against the very interests you claim to be defending as you kill women and children.In today's world, terrorism is seen as the best method to fight a revolution.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Thats the thing, I don't buy this crap about it being about them overthrowing the evil shackles of,er,autonomy... Both in the Theatre incident, and this one(hell all of them), their only aim was a great many dead Russians.Comment
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