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  • #76
    Originally posted by PLATO

    The democrats are losing touch with main stream America while the Republicans are beginning to dial into it.
    What the **** is "mainstream" America?

    First of all, about as many Americans call themselves democrats as republicans, and if you think the right-wing stance of the national party uts the mustard with all national rpeublicans, just look at Imran.

    The fact you guys got less votes last time for president, a tiny lead in congress (which has gotten relatively smaller each time since 1996), and could not even pass the ban on gay marriage makes me more than dubious about your claims that the republicans can claim to be in touch with whatever the **** the "mainstream" is supposed to be.
    If you don't like reality, change it! me
    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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    • #77
      Originally posted by GePap


      What the **** is "mainstream" America?
      If you have to ask......
      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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      • #78
        Originally posted by GePap


        What the **** is "mainstream" America?
        It should have been obvious to me that you wouldn't know...
        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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        • #79
          PWND!
          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

          Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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          • #80
            Originally posted by GePap


            You can't even vote, so you don't matter.
            Hell, only maybe 15% of the people here can.
            "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

            Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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            • #81
              Right, cause the 8 million people who live in Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota are somehow more "American" than the people of NYC?

              Or that the folks in the south are someohow more "American" than the people of Illinois, NY, and California (who happen to be more numerous actually)

              Sorry, but this crap about "the heartland" and the "mainstream" are just the illusions of the rightwing. If Bush wins, he wins cause people are scared, not becuase people think he is a good domestic leader.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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              • #82
                Your bravado is showing. (a bit thinly I might add)
                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • #83
                  BTW, GePap, your vote doesn't matter either. Your vote doesn't matter unless you live in Ohio, Florida, or Missouri.
                  "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                  Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                  • #84
                    at the Badarnik voter

                    Mine was a simple statement of fact- just look at the Republican Convention: we are living under great threat-only Bush can keep you safe! That was the message. A couple of mentions here or there to anything domestic, but overall, all about fear.

                    You fail thought to address the simple fact this country is divided evenly along partisan lines, with a big chunk of people abstanining. Claiming someonehow republicans appeal to some great majority that agrees ona set of positions and can be called "mainstream" is something rightwingers like to claim, but for which you have 0 evidence for. So one right-wing souther democrat rants about the party- the demos won special elections in Kentucky and South Dakota in congress- yup, ours is sucha liberal party we can't possibly win out in the boondocks

                    If you can show any HARD numbers that show there is such a thing as "a mainstream", show them. Another put up or shut up position here.
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by GePap
                      at the Badarnik voter
                      My vote, once I have it, won't matter either. I live in Maryland. It voted to re-elect Carter. There's no way it will ever come close to voting Republican, unless it's a 40+ state victory for the Republican candidate anyway. Thus, there is no reason for me to vote strategically and in 2008, I'll vote for whatever fool 5th party candidate I want to. You got that?
                      "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                      Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                        Your bravado is showing. (a bit thinly I might add)
                        What Bravado?

                        I have already said the Kerry campaign has been horribly run this last month and they let the repugs define him with their lies.

                        One also has to applaud the cynical use of 9/11 in the convention and also makign their convention so late in the process.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
                        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                        • #87
                          Yeah, Zell gave a rip-roaring speech. Too bad it had a few direct lies.
                          "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
                          ^ The Poly equivalent of:
                          "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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                          • #88
                            He is still left of conservative Republicans


                            Not even close. Zell is very much a conservative Republican in all but party name.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by PLATO
                              This statement demonstrates just how far left the democrats have gone. Zell is a conservative Democrat . He is still left of conservative Republicans.
                              Just like those old Dixiecrats Thurmond and Helmes and Lott . . . oh, wait. Miller is as far to the right as the right wing of the Republican Party. People like Schartzneger, Giulliani, and McCain are to the left of Miller.

                              There is now an organized tendency in the Republican Party fighting to try and take power away from the rightwing Xians, Mainstream2004.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #90
                                Oh come on, Thurmond, Helms and Lott are the pink wing of the republican party-true moderate to liberal party members. I mean, compared to Attila, Ghengis Khan, Mussolini, Pinochet and Franco the guys are pussies- real girlie-men! Right PLATO?
                                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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