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  • The years of keeping Saddam in a box were coming to a close. The international consensus that he be kept isolated and unarmed had eroded to the point that many critics of military action had decided the time had come again to do business with Saddam


    Yes, like the Bush admin. itself in the weeks before the attacks of 9/11- but how fast the ignorant forget.
    If you don't like reality, change it! me
    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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    • I thought the story was that the Bush admin wanted to invade from the start, and just used 911 as a convenient excuse?
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • Then you got the story wrong- or more likely, you got the simplistic version of it in which complexities don't matter. You know, the republican version of events.
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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        • The Republican version is that they used 911 as a convenient excuse?
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • Our adversaries are weaker than us in arms and men, but weaker still in causes. They fight to express a hatred for all that is good in humanity.

            We fight for love of freedom and justice, a love that is invincible. Keep that faith. Keep your courage. Stick together. Stay strong.

            Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight.

            We're Americans.

            We're Americans, and we'll never surrender.

            They will.
            What a demagogue

            Is this the same guy that was a 'candidate' for a Kerry/McCain ticket

            I heard this in the morning, and it made me sick.
            "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
            "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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            • Originally posted by GePap
              Yes, but when it comes to writing for a broad audience (like people dumb enough to read USA Today), Moore seems far more capable of acting normal, compared to Coulter, who does not seem able to do anything but rant and rave.
              In actuality either through timing or setup one can easily see how the situation went down.

              GIven Coulter knew she was offered an option to write for USA Today opposite Moore, I'm sure the implication was to write as Demogogic pieces as possible. WHen USA TOday pulled the proverbial rug out from underneath her, that left Moore the opportunity (or perhaps he was actually smart enough to learn from her mistakes)to write in a fashion that appears almost reasonable. OTOH all it takes is a casual read to understand its nothing but polished misinformation.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • Originally posted by germanos


                What a demagogue

                Is this the same guy that was a 'candidate' for a Kerry/McCain ticket

                I heard this in the morning, and it made me sick.
                Yesterfay it made me sick too, but I think it's because we aren't used to this. I have yet to see anything like it in national politics, the only group that comes within a 1000 miles of it are called extremists.
                Perhaps we shouldn't take it too serious and see it for what it is...
                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                • I get kinda peeved when some Republicans have claimed that they honor the legacy of Abraham Lincoln.


                  The Republican party of today is hardly similar to what the Republican party was during the Civil War and Reconstruction.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • Yes, the Republican Party now advocates slavery, and believes blacks cannot succeed without government handouts.

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                    • Arnold's on.
                      "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                      Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                      • Originally posted by Verto
                        Yes, the Republican Party now advocates slavery, and believes blacks cannot succeed without government handouts.
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • Originally posted by Jaguar
                          Arnold's on.
                          He said it again: "don't be an economic girlie-men".
                          'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                          G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                          • God, Ahnolds message is ironic beyond belief- to think that the people gathered around him trully give a **** about immigrants is absurd- so absurd as to be insulting.

                            I am an immigrant, I work with a permanent resident in my office- many of my constituents are immigrants, which is no surprise given 40% of NYC is foreign born. In my work I see every day what the republican controlled congress has done to the rights of permanent residents and legal immigrants- they have stripped them of most access to the safety net programs which they pay for out tax rates identical to citizens. It is under republicn Congresses that the INS and its predecessors hjave been given the power to esssential take away all civil rights from an immigrant accused of a crime. And our immigration bureaucracy is the worst bureaucracy of all- people wait YEARS upon years to become citizens, and until they do they have limited rights, yet pay the same taxes- and generally are too poor to benefit from regressive Republican tax strategies.

                            Hearing an ex-movie start talk to a bunch of rich white people from Oklahoma about how much they all care for immigrants is political theater at its most absurd.
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • Bush twins need to shut up.

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                              • Wow, those chicks are something..

                                :cringes:
                                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                                Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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