Greatest Conqueror Ever

[Ned]

I think Franks' strategy had a lot to do with the speed and ease of victory. It was brilliant.

[Arrian]

But Patton didn't beat them alone... not by a longshot.

-Arrian

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
Some Ottoman guy belongs here, I cant keep em straight.

Salim I the Grim, who took the Mamelukes?
Suleyman I the Magnificent (the Lawgiver), who took Hungary, Iraq, and much of Arabia?
Mehmet II the Conqueror, who took Constantinople, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovinia, Otranto, Jandar, Karaman, Morea, Athenes, and Albania?

[lord of the mark]

and of course mohammed only conquered the arabian peninsula, but his next 4 successors, the "rightly guided" caliphs, were perhaps the most impressive conquerors in world history. With a group of nomads as pathetic as any pre ghengis mongols, they beat two of the worlds greatest powers, took most of the heartland of ancient and classical civiilization, establishing an empire from the Atlantic to eastern persia, and whats more the empire they established lasted longer as a unit than Alexanders, and had a cultural impact that well exceeded that of the mongols.

as a collective they should get top honors.

[Ned]

I think Clovis did a good job too. He took 3000 guys with axes and carved an "empire" that included Gaul and Germany. In doing so, he defeated Germans, Romans and the previously undefeated Goths.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Salim I the Grim, who took the Mamelukes?
Suleyman I the Magnificent (the Lawgiver), who took Hungary, Iraq, and much of Arabia?
Mehmet II the Conqueror, who took Constantinople, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovinia, Otranto, Jandar, Karaman, Morea, Athenes, and Albania?

take your pick, i was thinking Mehmet.

[Ned]

Can we forget Chin, who conquered China and built the Great Wall? His country still bears his name.

[Ned]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
and of course mohammed only conquered the arabian peninsula, but his next 4 successors, the "rightly guided" caliphs, were perhaps the most impressive conquerors in world history. With a group of nomads as pathetic as any pre ghengis mongols, they beat two of the worlds greatest powers, took most of the heartland of ancient and classical civiilization, establishing an empire from the Atlantic to eastern persia, and whats more the empire they established lasted longer as a unit than Alexanders, and had a cultural impact that well exceeded that of the mongols.

as a collective they should get top honors.

Yeah, but they cheated. They attacked Persia and the Romans after they had totally exhausted themselves with their own war that went on for what, 30 years?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
I think Franks' strategy had a lot to do with the speed and ease of victory. It was brilliant.

Great troll

[Arrian]

I was thinking there should be a Chinese guy on the list, but for some reason didn't think of Chin. I kept thinking of the first Ming emperor - the peasant who became the most (or one of the most) powerful men on the planet. Not too shabby. But then again, he got there because the previous dynasty had decayed...

-Arrian

[self biased]

no conan the barbarian?

[Arrian]

Already been said.

-Arrian

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Ned


Conquering vast wastelands is not impressive at all.

Central asia was not a vast wasteland at the time Central asia just before the mongol invasion was at least as developed and certainly more wealthy than europe at the time. Sadly it is likely that the reason that central asia is a vast wasteland is precisely because of the mongol invasions. They were horrifically brutally destructive. As they swept through central asia the devastation they visited upon all resisting cities and towns would make romes treatment of carthage look like the Marshall Plan.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Arrian
But Patton didn't beat them alone... not by a longshot.

-Arrian

I never said he should be on the list, just that it's not quite the same thing as those others you mentioned

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by self biased
no conan the barbarian?

He was my choice on the previous page.