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  • Striker the Long PWN3Z all
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    • We're not talking about that sort of conquest, Ted

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      • oops
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        • Would the Horde have been able to beat the Japanese had they actually landed their invasion force?

          I say no.
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          • Alexander beats any mongol because his army was tiny. Only 35,000 to 50,000 total
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            • Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
              Alexander beats any mongol because his army was tiny. Only 35,000 to 50,000 total
              but that makes no sense AH! The mongol armor may well have been even smaller! Very few historians would accept claims of more than 50,000 in ghengis khans army.

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              • Would the Horde have been able to beat the Japanese had they actually landed their invasion force?

                I say no.


                They did land their invasion force, both times. The second time around, the Japs held them at bay for seven weeks at Hakata before the typhoon arrived to destroy the Mongol fleet.

                edit: This, of course, assumes that the Mongols existed, which they didn't.
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                • Hernan cortes is.

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                  • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                    Would the Horde have been able to beat the Japanese had they actually landed their invasion force?

                    I say no.


                    They did land their invasion force, both times. The second time around, the Japs held them at bay for seven weeks at Hakata before the typhoon arrived to destroy the Mongol fleet.

                    edit: This, of course, assumes that the Mongols existed, which they didn't.
                    Why did people only recently begin to question the historical existance of the mongols? I've been looking for references for this new revisionism and so far I've only encountered it here on Apolyton.

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                    • It's all from this site.

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                      • @ that site
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                        • Here is the groundbreaking paper that shattered the long-held myth of Mongol existence...

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                          I still get goosebumps from reading such a devastatingly insightful piece of historical research.
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                          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                            @ that site
                            You'll never guess how I found it.

                            I was researching canal-building techniques for a school project

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                            • Seriously, he conquered all of Asia. There is no way Alexander can compare.
                              Largely vast, open lands against inferior resistance. Alexander went through the Persian Empire... The Persia of Khan's time was no longer a great power.

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                              • Genghis Khan had 100,000 to 125,000 horsemen, with Uighur and Turkic allies, engineers and Chinese doctors -- a total of from 150,000 to 200,000 men.
                                Genghis Khan and his successors, to Kubilai Khan; Mongols into Europe, Mesopotamia, Korea, China and Japan.


                                i.e. 3 to 4 times the troops Alexander had and some 1500 years after he completed his conquests.
                                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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