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  • Originally posted by Lincoln
    And if one party to the 'diplomacy' (the party with the bombs)
    Why the singular? Need I remind you that you have the bomb too? Just as China and Russia as well? Kim fears more from his neighbours than the US will ever fear from Kim. He's afraid, and that's the reason he developed the Bomb in the first place.
    If he hadn't, the Chinese could have "cleaned house" as soon as they would see fit. The Yanks would have avoided it though, since the whole North Korean artillery stands ready to level Seoul for decades.

    Kim should continue to be rather predictable as long as he doesn't feel (or want) his end near. That gives some time to find a solution: find a political agreement for the unification of Korea that strokes his ego, yet places the nukes out of his direct power; find a way to disable his nukes and stop his nuclear program; convince the Chinese to stop life-supporting his country, and open the gates to North Korean immigration; etc.
    Assassination is strongly to be avoided: NK is probably the country where the power is the most personalized in the world (at least, it's the only country I know of where the leader is worshipped that much), and you don't want chaos in a country that has nukes.

    But the Bush-like diplomacy of grand speeches against the "axis of evil", while appeasing Kim on the bargaining table, is sure to meet no results. If Bush wants results, it needs to change his way of doing things.
    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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    • Ming!

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      (Staging a Mickey Mouse Protest Vote in hopes that next election we won't dredge the bottom of the shallow end of the gene pool for candidates)
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      • This won't be the first time I have voted for Mickey, and I highly doubt it will be the last time...
        Keep on Civin'
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        • Not if the crop of total f*ckoffs we have running in THIS election year are any indication.

          What are the summers in Canada like?

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          • Cooler than in Texas, and with mossies. Not many blizzards, but it happens once in a while.
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            • Sign me up....we have morons running the show here.

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              • Ming:
                Why don't you vote for an actual third party candidate whose platform you support?

                Even if it seems wasted, it's not: for those third party candidates, every vote gives an incentive to continue, to voice their opinions further. This may not affect the big picture, but it does definitely affect their horizon, and may even affect their effectiveness to a small extent.
                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                • Badnarik
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                  “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                  • Spiffor....cos methinks that the problem with politics is....well...all the politicians....

                    Can't speak for Ming, but that's my dilemma...

                    -=Vel=-
                    (almost all of them need a boot to the head!)
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                    • Oh dear lord...am I becoming...an anarchist?

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                      • You can count me in as vote number three for Mickey Mouse. If I can be arsed to send away for the absentee ballot, that is...
                        Last edited by Drake Tungsten; September 2, 2004, 01:14.
                        KH FOR OWNER!
                        ASHER FOR CEO!!
                        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                        • Originally posted by Agathon
                          The only reason KJI wants them so badly is because some dweeb with the middle initial of "W" threatened him for no diplomatically or militarily justifiable reason.
                          I call bull****.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                          • Ming:
                            Why don't you vote for an actual third party candidate whose platform you support?

                            Even if it seems wasted, it's not: for those third party candidates, every vote gives an incentive to continue, to voice their opinions further. This may not affect the big picture, but it does definitely affect their horizon, and may even affect their effectiveness to a small extent.
                            Yup, I'll vote for the Libertarians if you will Ming.

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                            • One of the few agreements in this thread Berz.
                              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                              • Hehe, I'm all over the map on this issue. I start a thread praising Bush's foreign policy and I criticise him in another.

                                "Evil" is a subjective concept, and I don't like to use this word, except in jest. However, yes, there are oppressive, destructive, abusive people who correspond more or less to the general idea of "evil".
                                Call 'em like ya see 'em. The problem is most everyone has a dark side so it comes down to which side dominates.

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