Communists, Don't Fear the Reaper....:D

[aneeshm]

The previous was a cross post .

And no , the chip makers don't have a monopoly . The government has re-opened their chip factories with a grant from the National Board of Industry , but now most people are buying the new chips from the family business because they did not compromise on quality , and they have more trust that the business won't close and leave them without chips until the Board sanctions their re-opening .

Also , the family business is still local , operating in a few districts . The rest of the nation still buys the chips from the recently re-opened chip-factories owned by the National Board of Industry . Even locally , they have to compete with the factories owned by the Board . So the people still have a choice .

[Velociryx]

aneeshm, I'm reading the exchange between you and Kid with interest.

And I do not believe that I *am* being aggrivating.

I AM getting aggravated, however, because every time I attempt to ask questions about the proposed system, they either go totally unanswered (page one of this debate, really only one question of nine answered), or the answer changes dramatically within moments of getting it initially.

Try going rounds with him for three days and see for yourself...

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by aneeshm
Hey , c'mon , answer my queston .

Didn't I?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by aneeshm
The previous was a cross post .

And no , the chip makers don't have a monopoly . The government has re-opened their chip factories with a grant from the National Board of Industry , but now most people are buying the new chips from the family business because they did not compromise on quality , and they have more trust that the business won't close and leave them without chips until the Board sanctions their re-opening .

Also , the family business is still local , operating in a few districts . The rest of the nation still buys the chips from the recently re-opened chip-factories owned by the National Board of Industry . Even locally , they have to compete with the factories owned by the Board . So the people still have a choice .

They just don't have a chance, but ok it would be fair.

[Velociryx]

Kid, please read my posts before responding with trite, one sentence answers.

I never said anything about being strong making me a good person. Can you please answer the question?

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Kid, please read my posts before responding with trite, one sentence answers.

I never said anything about being strong making me a good person. Can you please answer the question?

-=Vel=-

I didn't know there was a question.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I approve of workers combining their political power to make wages fairer, but it's not the solution that I prefer.

This began with you saying it was unfair that you couldn't negotiate your wage. Now you're approving of the workers, via their political representatives, effectively taking away the chance to negotiate your wage. The conclusion would seem to be that you approve of unfairness.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

This began with you saying it was unfair that you couldn't negotiate your wage. Now you're approving of the workers, via their political representatives, effectively taking away the chance to negotiate your wage. The conclusion would seem to be that you approve of unfairness.

No. Workers collectively negotiate their wage.

[Velociryx]

Then please learn the skill "reading for comprehension" as it will enhance the debate.

To do your work for you (again), the question is this:

People are different. They HAVE different skills and natural abilities. Some might be smarter or faster, or physicially stronger, or whatever.

That happens quite naturally in some cases, and is nurtured or enhanced in others.

Skills, on the other hand, are not natural, but learned (ie - learning a second language, or how to fix computers). No one is "lucky" to have a skill....they are industrious, and take the required time and effort to learn it.

Going back to the moving example, let us add the fact that I've been a People's Mover for fifteen years, and have vast experience at it, while my partner has been on the job for three days.

In the real world (ie, the world as it is today), you would tell me that these natural gifts (strength), and my acquired skills (experience) are "unfair" to my partner, because they enable me to do things that my partner cannot do. Thus, you devise a system to correct these imbalances, whereby we both make the same baseline wage, HOWEVER

Under your proposed system, he who works harder, earns more, so in the world according to Kid, my vertically challenged partner should be paid more, becuase he is less strong and less experienced, and so, must "work harder" to accomplish the same goals as me.

Thus, you turn my natural abilities and skills into a curse. I get a paycut for being better at my job.

This is the point I would like you to address. If you can.

If that's clear enough.

Comprende?

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Honestly, I don't feel a duty to read your whole posts. Too much crap.

[Velociryx]

Thank you.

That was about the answer I expected.

And on that note...I'd say we're about wrapped up.

-=Vel=-

[Velociryx]

If you would though...humor me. Take that last post and quote to me every untrue (or "crap") part?

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Thank you.

That was about the answer I expected.

And on that note...I'd say we're about wrapped up.

-=Vel=-

You know, I don't mind to responding to people when they misrepresent me, but not over and over again.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Kidicious


No. Workers collectively negotiate their wage.

I can honestly not see how this is an answer to what I said.

So, a very simple question; do you approve of the minimum wage (the existence thereof, not the exact level currently in force)?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

I can honestly not see how this is an answer to what I said.

So, a very simple question; do you approve of the minimum wage (the existence thereof, not the exact level currently in force)?

Absolutely.