Al Jazeera is the only news organization that actually gives decent reports from Iraq? Man, what are you smoking?
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I was talking about Oerdin and the dentist.Originally posted by Agathon
No. They are a bull**** government established by an illegal invader, blah blah blah
By the way, how many Iraqis are out in the streets protesting the banning of Al Jazeera?We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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Originally posted by Agathon
Still, they are supposed to be trying to kill that Sadr fellow this morning, don't they know that's probably what he's hoping for....
If only the United States had a free press...
Meanwhile I consulted my propaganda news source Bloomberg and learned that Al-Sadr has been injured.
Definitley good news.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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Here's another "propaganda" article that shows a balanced accounting of what's going on:
Get the latest local and national breaking news, crime, Boston traffic, New England weather, politics in Massachusetts and across the U.S., and more.
But it's no "Guardian"

Oh, and here's another "propaganda" article from a news source in North Carolina, discussing the latest operation in Najaf:
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Sa...77281143&path=!nationworld&s=1037645509161"What is happening at this stage is not to the benefit of anyone," he said yesterday. "What is happening is the murdering and the massacring of the Iraqi people, and the destroying of the public institutions.... They are trying to derail the rebuilding of Iraq, trying to prevent Iraqis from carrying out their normal lives and threatening their future."
The fact of the matter Agathon is that you are just plain igornant when it comes to the choices of what Americans have to choose for sources of information.
Your only knowledge of American media is CNN and Fox News, and for some reason you seem to voluntarily watch alot of it.Last edited by Ted Striker; August 13, 2004, 00:46.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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I bet you that they 'borrowed' all his power tools.Originally posted by Agathon
CNN. They had about 30 seconds of bad video of marines looking in Sadr's garage. Even the CBC had better coverage. Too many western journalists spend their time holed up in hotels and living off briefings.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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The fact of the matter Agathon is that you are just plain igornant when it comes to the choices of what Americans have to choose for sources of information.
We get most of your TV and most of your papers here in Canada. Believe me, even New Zealand has better and more objective media than the US.Only feebs vote.
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Objective and Media are two words that don't go together in the US...its really impossible to find an objective news source here...then again, from my training as an anthropologist, we learn to accept our subjectivity and count it as a research factor, which is what I try to do when I watch CNN or MSNBC (don't even try to get me to watch Fox "News")"I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite
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Can I get some info on what basis AJ can reasonably be described as objective if any of the things Oerdin describes are true?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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"Most"Originally posted by Agathon
We get most of your TV and most of your papers here in Canada. Believe me, even New Zealand has better and more objective media than the US.
Okay so let's hear a few ignoramus.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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Ted, you see teh problem in this? Choices of news sources.. why would you need choices of news sources?
Choices sounds a lot like freedom of choice. Which woudl equal even wider freedoms. However, in case of clear outrageous propaganda, shaping up opinions of people, it's not really the same. It's like freedom would be to choose fascism as form of state: while that would be wider freedom because you have more options, it don't make it good. Except choosing fascism would still be conscious choice, where as fox news stating they're news station isn't.Last edited by Pekka; August 13, 2004, 02:36.In da butt.
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Exactly, clear outrageous propaganda
Like Al Jazeera
Now I have provided first hand accounts of how irresponsible Al Jazeera has been. Your and Agathon's homework is to provide these same accounts about Fox News.
thanksWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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I don't know where you're getting at but sure IMO Al Jazeera is very bad also and takes sides, a clear stance, is not balanced, lacks of journalism sometimes and absolutely can not be considered as good News. Irresponsible? Absolutely.In da butt.
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THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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