Gay segregation, community building & phobism

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


I'd watch it with the personal threats - you're already on a warning from Ming.

coming from someone who justifies beating other people up for expressing themselves

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


I'd watch it with the personal threats - you're already on a warning from Ming.

Oh my English not so good white master. What is threat here please?


The grapes of wrath express a thin sour whine.........

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


So you're saying you're a metrosexual?

Nope. I'm saying that lifestyles among heterosexuals vary so widely that any definition of "the heterosexual lifestyl" wide enough to include even a majority of heterosexuals will include very many homosexuals too, making the label "the heterosexual lifestyle" meaningless.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

Nope. I'm saying that lifestyles among heterosexuals vary so widely that any definition of "the heterosexual lifestyl" wide enough to include even a majority of heterosexuals will include very many homosexuals too, making the label "the heterosexual lifestyle" meaningless.

Please explain this slowly and in words of monosyllables to Obi Gyn the next time he sloshes empty phrases such as 'gay lifestyle' around a discussion. He might trust it, coming from a non homosexualist gay type human being.

[MrFun]

I do not know of any gay man who has the exact same lifestyle that I have.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by MrFun
I do not know of any gay man who has the exact same lifestyle that I have.

Not everyone has the same degree of tolerance for glue, bread, galoshes and earmuffs.



Especially used in that combination in that way.

[Japher]

What is a lifestyle anyway? What all does that include?

[MrFun]

I think lifestyle is something that is strongly influenced by your personal values, and your personality.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Not everyone has the same degree of tolerance for glue, bread, galoshes and earmuffs.

whatever trips your trigger, dear

[Atahualpa]

Back to Anti-Gay threats, only now that I think of it I remember a weblog entry by someone at my favorite radio station (fm4) a while ago where there was portrayed the situation of gays in Jamaica (I think it was Jamaica), because of all that Anti-Gay sentiments in Ragga and Dancehall music. I was quite stunned then on how "chi chi men" get treated.

http://www.jahworks.org/music/interview/jflag_interview.html

Beenie man "apologizes":

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14655,00.html

The situation seems to be really bad there. I have found other reports from Ecuador or Honduras on AI's site.
In the U.S. the chicago police has caught much attention.

This article is a bit contradictory to that posted by mercator and then quoted by che:

...Many consider homosexuality to be immoral because of strong language in the Bible prohibiting males from "lying with" males (especially Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 and Romans 1:26-27). But many Biblical prohibitions (e.g., against intercourse during menstruation or against masturbation) are ignored by modern culture, so it's clear that we can set aside the moral objections against homosexuality when we choose to do so. In the Netherlands, a Christian country, less than 20 percent of the public is anti-gay. Religious objections to homosexuality can, it seems, be overcome....

http://www.psychologytoday.com/htdocs/prod/PTOArticle/PTO-20030123-000001.asp

*snip*gays were given aversion therapy; e.g. clients were shown pictures of naked men and simultaneously shocked with electricity.*snip*

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_fixe.htm

Also mentioned is that nearly every gay person has felt anti-gay sentiments already. How about you?

[Kuciwalker]

I think this thread is gay infected

[Mercator]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
hmm no I didn't miss that. But as with any other case as well, I don't turn my believe level 180° with just one source, which in addition is called Gay Newspaper (and therefore _probably_ has much more interest to make it look that way), I would be considered quite an "opinion hoper" if I'd adopt to that right away.

Quite right. It was a poll among 500 readers of a gay newspaper. On their website I can't find a whole lot more detail about the outcome of the poll either. But even if it is vague, it's enough to show that even in tolerant Holland, one of the few countries where gays can get married, it's still far from perfect.

[Atahualpa]

Good to know. I dug up some more dirt and a german site listed some of the headlines from 1998 to 1999, I am quite shocked.

Also it seemed that the culprits are mainly adolescents and someone claimed a large number of homophobic people show homosexual tendencies for themselves, they use their hatred to overcompensate their sexual desires.

[Last Conformist]

That's why we all believe that PA is a closet gay.

[mindseye]

Originally posted by Atahualpa

Also mentioned is that nearly every gay person has felt anti-gay sentiments already. How about you?

I think it would be easier to try to find some gay person who has not experienced them, directly or indirectly, on a regular basis.

Hell, we even regularly hear these "sentiments" from our own government, including sombre declarations that our possible marriage will cause dire, irreparable damage to the institution itself!

By the way, I applaud your willingness to consider new points of view.