John Kerry: Unfit For Command

[MichaeltheGreat]

I suppose it would be bad form for me to participate in a threadjack/spamfest to push this thread to the limit, so I wont.

[GePap]

Terrible, we lost one.

I must say these bozos have gotten more press than I thought they would, but then, the current quality of the press is horrible, so I should have known better.

There have been a few good political cartoons about this, thought.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Well, if you posted some, or links to them, it wouldn't be either spam or a threadjack, now would it?

[GePap]

[GePap]

[GePap]

Not related to the topic, but I just love Tom Toles- my favorite cartoonist.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap


Maybe you understand the "He's NOt Bush" wall and how it works- see, he does not give a rats ass what you guys have to say about Kerry, becuase there is nothing about him you could say that would have him vote for Bush, and since he knows minor candidates don't have a chance in hell, he will vote for the only winnable alternative.

Its not hard to understand, now is it?

The only problem with this analysis is that MtG is a rational, intelligent, Southern patriot. I find it hard to believe he would even consider voting for a Northern Liberal Lying Scumbag.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned


The only problem with this analysis is that MtG is a rational, intelligent, Southern patriot. I find it hard to believe he would even consider voting for a Northern Liberal Lying Scumbag.

As opposed to a Fake-Southern Religious Fundamentalist Lying Scumbag like Bush?

At least Kerry acknowledges his northern roots.

[Kuciwalker]

Well, I'm sure MtG would vote for Bush over some people. Like Jack the Ripper

[Ned]

GePap, MtG has made it clear that he is a hardcore member of the "ABB" (Anybody But Bush) faction. He hardly is a fan of Kerry.

The things MtG list as Bush's failings (deficit, etc.) are typical failings of liberals. MtG is consistent here at least in his conservatism. The problem is he is being irrational thinking that a move to Kerry would be a move to the right, which is where MtG seems to want the nation to move.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
GePap, MtG has made it clear that he is a hardcore member of the "ABB" (Anybody But Bush) faction. He hardly is a fan of Kerry.

The things MtG list as Bush's failings (deficit, etc.) are typical failings of liberals. MtG is consistent here at least in his conservatism. The problem is he is being irrational thinking that a move to Kerry would be a move to the right, which is where MtG seems to want the nation to move.

Its not a "right-left" issue.

He falls rather hard in the middle, social liberal, fiscal conservative. Bush is a social conservative, and has proven himself fiscally irresponsible (in MtG's parlance, liberal). Hence, the opposite of MtG.

At least Kerry agrees with 1 set of positions, as opposed to Bush, who falls against on both.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ned


The only problem with this analysis is that MtG is a rational, intelligent, Southern patriot. I find it hard to believe he would even consider voting for a Northern Liberal Lying Scumbag.

In four years, if/when the Republicans put up a better alternative, or if President Kerry is the spectacular ****up you fear he will be, I'll be happy to vote to replace him, too. As long as Bush doesn't try to pull a Grover Cleveland.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Unfortunately, that's not a real plausible scenario. A bucketfull of decorations for valor wouldn't get Kerry or anyone else sent anywhere. And it took three PH awards to get someone out, so how would the "nice boss" assume Kerry would get any?

If Kerry was dangerous on the boats or a ****up, you wouldn't take months and bogus citations to deal with it - it would be easy to just make him some sort of supply or administrative officer, or just flat-ass transfer him, if there was any vaguely justifiable basis for doing so.

Given a lack of contemporaneous evidence of any nature, all you can do is guess that this might be so in order to manufacture a trace of credibility for these gents.

4 months represents a pretty short time period in largely beuracratic organizations.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


In four years, if/when the Republicans put up a better alternative, or if President Kerry is the spectacular ****up you fear he will be, I'll be happy to vote to replace him, too. As long as Bush doesn't try to pull a Grover Cleveland.

If Bush pulled a Grover Cleveland and kerry turned out to wipe his ass with the constitution as well, would you consider voting for a 3rd party candidate?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


4 months represents a pretty short time period in largely beuracratic organizations.

At the fleet or division level, yes. With a boat squadron (or whatever the hell the squids call it), or an infantry battalion in the field, things can happen a lot quicker if the local commanders are motivated to make them happen.