If Molly and MtG got into an argument?

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Hey, I was about to point out the thread a while ago when it was everyone vs. Agathon over his thinking a private golf club should be forced by the government to admit women. He was dead wrong on that one, and everyon disagreed with him.

Yay! There is still a glimmer of common sense in you! At one point, you were a normal, sensible liberal, or about as sensible as liberals can get. However, since about two years ago, you've lost it. GePap went the same way. I blame George W. Bush.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
LOVE YOUR AVATAR

I'm sorry, but in no way does his avatar compare with the ultimate avatar...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Yay! There is still a glimmer of common sense in you! At one point, you were a normal, sensible liberal, or about as sensible as liberals can get. However, since about two years ago, you've lost it. GePap went the same way. I blame George W. Bush.

I think I'm far more sensible now than I was two years ago. I think the problem is that you have become too far indocrinated by the insane right wing.

I also blame George W. Bush for that.

[Kuciwalker]

Jaguar and I have both become VERY moderated since joining this forum

[Agathon]

Hey, I was about to point out the thread a while ago when it was everyone vs. Agathon over his thinking a private golf club should be forced by the government to admit women. He was dead wrong on that one, and everyone pwned him.

Want to start that one again?

NB: there's a difference between forcing them to admit women and punishing them for racist and sexist practices.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Jaguar and I have both become VERY moderated since joining this forum

Young lovers do tend to temper each other.

But Jaguar has made some nutty conservative comments in recent times. I remember dragging him across the mat on one such comment a little while back.

[Kuciwalker]

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Young lovers do tend to temper each other.

But Jaguar has made some nutty conservative comments in recent times. I remember dragging him across the mat on one such comment a little while back.

Had him up a tree did ya?

Way to go!

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


I think I'm far more sensible now than I was two years ago.

Well you aren't. You went from one of the Spiffor-like liberals whose arguments I could respect as valid and objective, to one of the Agathons.

I think the problem is that you have become too far indocrinated by the insane right wing.

Umm, no. I've moved from far right to dead center in my four years here. I realize that being a centrist still puts me among the more conservative posters here, but if you think that skywalker and I are indoctrinated extremists, it speaks volumes about your lack of perspective. You're a resident of the urban northeast and a member of the gay community. I doubt you know what a real conservative is.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Agathon
Want to start that one again?

Sure, I'm always up for a gang bang.

Erm, strike that. *shudder*

NB: there's a difference between forcing them to admit women and punishing them for racist and sexist practices.

NB: The former is what you advocated, which would be unconstitutional. The latter is fine, so long as it is done without violating their constitutional rights (i.e. pressure groups, protests, etc.).

[Kuciwalker]

I think, Boris, you're misinterpreting our Reagan-worship. You see, we actually think he's God, not just the Son of God.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Young lovers do tend to temper each other.

But Jaguar has made some nutty conservative comments in recent times. I remember dragging him across the mat on one such comment a little while back.

I actually think I remember that. I don't remember what the argument was about, but I remember having the reply page open for about ten minutes before thinking "damn, he's got me."

[Agathon]

NB: The former is what you advocated, which would be unconstitutional. The latter is fine, so long as it is done without violating their constitutional rights (i.e. pressure groups, protests, etc.).

That argument won't work with me, since I think the constitution sucks.

My point was more general: about the "privatization" of racism and sexism. In other words racists and sexists finding "stealth" ways of keeping black people and women down by removing the discrimination to "private" spheres.

I don't care about racists or sexists. I don't think they have the right to be racist or sexist, and should be hounded by the law as far as is practically possible.

Does that make me a Stalinist? I don't think so. But it's not an inconsistent position.

Sure, I'm always up for a gang bang.

Dude, I'm not your type in almost every relevant way. Besides, I'd never go to bed with a Brahms lover.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Well you aren't. You went from one of the Spiffor-like liberals whose arguments I could respect as valid and objective, to one of the Agathons.

Says you, but that's just because you're mad that I've out-argued you. Even conservatives here (take PLATO, for example) seem to think I'm one of the more reasonable debaters here. Come on, give an example of an extreme, unreasoned liberal argument I've made, please. Go ahead.

Umm, no. I've moved from far right to dead center in my four years here.

Actions speak louder than words. BUt words speak, too:

Now, I'm perfectly willing to admit that I am extremely biased against Kerry,...

Small example.

I realize that being a centrist still puts me among the more conservative posters here, but if you think that skywalker and I are indoctrinated extremists, it speaks volumes about your lack of perspective.

That you consider yourself centrist is the real lack of perspective. Remember that by the standards of the Western world, U.S. Democrats are centrist. They'd be the conservative party in any European country. Sorry, my perspective is confined to the immediate county.

You're a resident of the urban northeast and a member of the gay community. I doubt you know what a real conservative is.

Yeah, and I'm sure you've lived enough places and met enough people and know enough about the Northeast to know there are no "real conservatives" here. I suggest you listen to what your friend kuciwalker said in regards to MtG in regards to experience, mmkay?

Oh, and I can introduce you to a staunchly conservative gay republican inhabiting the debauched Northeast if you like. You might not enjoy it, however, as he's a sleazeball. Not surprising for a conservative.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Jaguar
I actually think I remember that. I don't remember what the argument was about, but I remember having the reply page open for about ten minutes before thinking "damn, he's got me."

VICTORY IS MINE!!!

*does a lap*