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  • #91
    No rules other than age of consent and even then there can be exceptions, i.e., a minor with parent's permission.
    Don't matter to me who or how many you marry, it's called freedom of association. If you find 3 women who want to marry you and the feeling is mutual, good for you and them... It's your life, you decide for yourself...




    I'd also suggest not having the state recognize marriage. Have it be a totally private affair.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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    • #92
      That'd end up being a pain in the arse because of all the legal consequences that would flow from it.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        No rules other than age of consent and even then there can be exceptions, i.e., a minor with parent's permission.
        Don't matter to me who or how many you marry, it's called freedom of association. If you find 3 women who want to marry you and the feeling is mutual, good for you and them... It's your life, you decide for yourself...




        I'd also suggest not having the state recognize marriage. Have it be a totally private affair.
        I'd agree in principle, but given the current social structure of the West, we pragmatically speaking need some sort of legally recognized framework for cohabiting couples.

        I'd be all for it to be called "civil union" or similar, and leave the word "marriage" to whatever religious ceremonies people feel like having.
        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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        • #94
          I'd be all for it to be called "civil union" or similar, and leave the word "marriage" to whatever religious ceremonies people feel like having.


          I guess that could work, but I reckon I'm just opposed to the government recognizing these pairings.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #95
            "Why is this complicated for you? Why can't marriage have the same rules as now, except that you allow gays to marry each other? Is it really that hard to grasp?"

            Why are you being bigotted to willing polygamists?
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            • #96
              Who says he is?
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Park Avenue
                "Why is this complicated for you? Why can't marriage have the same rules as now, except that you allow gays to marry each other? Is it really that hard to grasp?"

                Why are you being bigotted to willing polygamists?
                I dunno, that's your hang up. I could care less about polygamists. If we want to extent marriage rights to them too, so be it. But I don't see why allowing gays to get married necessarily means wholesale change on everything else.

                Why do you keep avoiding the point? I mean, I know the real answer, I just want to hear you say it.
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                • #98
                  Huh?

                  My definition is simple: marriage is between a man and a woman.

                  Your definition is something like: marriage is between a man and a woman, and between gays, and anyone else who fancies joining in the whole parade!

                  You need to make something exclusive to give it value.
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                  • #99
                    Well, my definition is "marriage is between a man and a woman of the same race".

                    Oh wait, you'd support that one.

                    How about "Marriage is between two men or two women"?

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                    • #100
                      Originally posted by Last Conformist
                      I'd be all for it to be called "civil union" or similar, and leave the word "marriage" to whatever religious ceremonies people feel like having.
                      that is exactly what is being proposed for gay couples in britain. i think it's a good idea, a 'civil partnership', it's not gay marriage, but it is gay 'marriage' in all but name.
                      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by Park Avenue
                        Huh?

                        My definition is simple: marriage is between a man and a woman.

                        Your definition is something like: marriage is between a man and a woman, and between gays, and anyone else who fancies joining in the whole parade!

                        You need to make something exclusive to give it value.
                        So you fully admit to being bigotted?

                        And you're completely destroying one of your own points with your "exclusivity" statement. If you don't think that gays are being prevented from getting married now because they can marry someone of the opposite sex, then how is marriage exclusive at all? Anyone can do it now, they just have to do it in a manner that you approve of. If everyone did that, where's the exclusivity?
                        "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                        "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
                        "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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                        • #102
                          Yes, gays can marry. Marriage doesn't discriminate against them.
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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by Park Avenue
                            Yes, gays can marry. Marriage doesn't discriminate against them.
                            So how is marriage any more exclusive now than if gays were allowed to marry each other?
                            "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                            "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
                            "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Park Avenue
                              Yes, gays can marry. Marriage doesn't discriminate against them.


                              I already disposed of this point earlier in THIS THREAD ALONE!

                              If only gay marriage were allowed, then straights wouldn't be discriminated against - hey, you could always marry another guy.

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                              • #105
                                But that isn't marriage.
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