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And Kerry's bounce out of the convention is........
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Wow, Kerry's cousin still has a political function? (mayor of a 2000 inhab town). I didn't know that. The guy has indeed lost pretty much every clout he could have during the 90's: he created a right-wing ecological party, and sank with it.
As for Kerry being favored by France: go try to find any population other than the americans and Israelis that supports Bush
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So lets summarize- Shi chose the one poll that shows Kerry behind (only with likely voters, since he is ahead with all voters) but within the margin of error.
Ramo then gives us 3 polls with Kerry ahead.
So what is the point of this thread anymore?
I think one fact is significant, and not only Zogby, but the NYT today as well highlights the fact that among those who have not decided, Bush is disliked.
I think the debates will be critical- if Kerry does well against Bush, it will give him the lead for good I think, becuase people undecided will pick him over Bush, and given the general stalemate, once those undecided or with weak support for either side chose, it will be impossible for the other guy, whomever it is, to catch up.
As for Shi's notion about the protesters- NYC police and firemen will be out there among the protestors- this will be a very wide protest, and I seriously doubt it will help Bush to have a quarter of a million people out there agaisnt him- hardly a show of democratic support for the Dear Leader.
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Originally posted by GePap
So what is the point of this thread anymore?
Rant about the fact that DANS' NEW AVATAR SUCKS
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If Kerry cared about poor people he would have requested that all the money spent on the Convention be donated to charity. But I guess they really needed to have the week long party.
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If Kerry cared about poor people he would have requested that all the money spent on the Convention be donated to charity. But I guess they really needed to have the week long party.
I won't let you ruin my joke's good name by surrounding it with that...dry..."joke".
Originally posted by Sprayber
If Kerry cared about poor people he would have requested that all the money spent on the Convention be donated to charity. But I guess they really needed to have the week long party.
But Bush surely will, right? RIGHT!!!!?
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Originally posted by Spiffor
As for Kerry being favored by France: go try to find any population other than the americans and Israelis that supports Bush
I guess that's good considering the ONLY people who are relavent are Americans as its their country and their taxes.
Originally posted by GePap
But Bush surely will, right? RIGHT!!!!?
That's exactly what he's doing. Haven't you been following the news at all? ****, I'm already sick of all those feel good stories about what is happening with the money.
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There's still a point to this thread; we can discuss how the polls are demonstrating that Dear Leader will be pwned this November. Internals of Shi's poll:
FAVORABLE RATING
KERRY 58
BUSH 52
HANDLE IRAQ BETTER?
KERRY 49(44)
BUSH 47(49)
HANDLE THE ECONOMY BETTER?
KERRY 54
BUSH 43
LEAD THE WAR ON TERROR?
BUSH 54(56)
KERRY 42(38)
MORE HONEST & TRUSTWORTHY
KERRY 48(42)
BUSH 43(42)
STRONG & DECISIVE
BUSH 51
KERRY 42
WHO IS THE UNITER?
KERRY 52
BUSH 39
WHO IS THE OPTIMIST?
KERRY 42
BUSH 41
The current poll suggested Democrat-leaning voters were more enthusiastic about the race, and therefore more likely to vote. But enthusiasm among Democrats already was high, and the poll suggested the four-day Democratic convention energized Republicans as well. Seventy-four percent of Democrats said they were more enthusiastic about voting than usual, up from 68 percent two weeks earlier. Sixty-one percent of Republicans said they were now enthusiastic about the race, up from 51 percent.
Even if Kerry's up by only 3 among registered voters, the internals are very, very good for him. The horse race is probably lagging.
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That's exactly what he's doing. Haven't you been following the news at all? ****, I'm already sick of all those feel good stories about what is happening with the money.
Actually, no, I haven't heard that at all. Link would be nice.
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