Poly Fantasy Football Draft (con't)

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hehe... exactly. I got 4 WR myself and don't need another one.

[Japher]

You can drop players!!?

I have 4 WRs too, course one is now a GIMP!

Still keeping him until the final report comes out

[-Jrabbit]

Looking objectively at your roster, reis, you're in fine shape. With 2 picks left, you could use a 4th RB, 3rd QB, or 2nd TE/K.

If you're going to propose a trade, do some homework and make a proposal.

You picked Porter in Round 6. What do you imagine you could get for him? You didn't draft McCareins until IIRC the 11th. And frankly, I still see a couple decent alternatives for the *two* teams who don't have a 4th WR already.

Trolling for trades during the draft -- especially when you're on the clock -- is a waste of time. Why not just pick your guy and move on?

[reismark]

I'd rather watch you drop him.

Sorry, won't be happening. If it means I pass on Brown here, then so be it. I have my one Buc already anyway - this would just be gravy.

As an old vet of FF, I would think you would plan these things...

I didn't expect Brown to sign anywhere until after we were finished drafting - and I certainly didn't expect him to come here. (I thought he was a lock to head to the other side of the bay like Jerry did a few years ago, since they need WR help so badly.)

You picked Porter in Round 6.

Well, technically, I picked him sometime early in Round 11 to replace Boston - and that's about where I had expected him to go initially considering the injuries and the QB controversy.

Trolling for trades during the draft -- especially when you're on the clock -- is a waste of time. Why not just pick your guy and move on?

Just to make things clear to you - we've got less than two rounds to go and almost a month until the season starts. Why not slow it down a little bit?

(Just kidding - I'm gonna think about it over lunch and post again in about an hour.)

[Zopperoni]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
You picked Porter in Round 6.

He didn't pick Porter in the sixth, he took Boston in six, but was granted a replacement for Boston in the eleventh round, which was Porter. So this was a free pick that no-one needs to sacrifice a player for getting.

Now just make your goddamn pick!

[-Jrabbit]

Hm, I notice you didn't respond to my main point, reis -- which would be to propose an actual trade (or at least state what position you'd want in return) instead of this vague "anybody wanna trade?" thing.

My mistake re the draft timing. Forgot about the unfortunate Boston incident...

Now you have buyer's remorse due to contract changes putting Brown in Tampa? Just goes to show you how misguided the whole replacement pick concept is.

I might consider taking McCareins off your hands btw.

[reismark]

I'm going to pass on Tim Brown.

/me struggles to hold back tears.

It's tough, but I don't need anything else at WR. If someone picks him up, we'll definitely talk trade after the draft.

We'll still keep the Tampa love going, though, with this:

Denver Broncos Defense

(Lynch is gonna be ready to kill some people in that AFC West, ya gotta believe...)

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)

After you, Zop...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Zopper's turn

Btw, I guess this is as good a time as any to ask. Should we 'freeze' the rosters (ie, no waiver pickups, no dropping of players) until a week before the first game? This would allow there to be supplemental picks for training camp injuries (kind of like waivers, but not quite).

[Zopperoni]

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)
13.07 Adam Vinatieri K (NE)
13.08

Over to Dissident

[Imran Siddiqui]

Btw, when you post your picks could you PLEASE post this:

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

... it kinda makes it easier for me to imput all the results!

[-Jrabbit]

I'm in favor of freezing the drafted rosters until the day after the last preseason games. At that point, we can list all the injuries, retirements, etc. eligible for a supplemental draft. We then hold a quickie supp draft, after which time we could proceed normally with trades, waivers, etc.

(Of course, as a noob, I don't know how this has been done in the past...)

[Imran Siddiqui]

Don't worry, -Jrabbit we are all noobs with the freezing thing. I know that FFZ does it and I'm blatently stealing it with some tweaks .

In past years, we'd just open things up after the draft. I'd rather not do that this year.

[-Jrabbit]

Cool. Since I'm a noob in both leagues, consistency would be a bonus for me.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well it's a bit different since we don't have a supplemental draft per se.

[-Jrabbit]

So, anticipating that I'll have a preseason injury or two, how will it work?

(C'mon, Diss!!!)