"Public disclosure will only cause panic"

[Sava]

Disclosure would cause great social change I think... but perhaps not all out panic. I think religion would take a blow. Especially if the aliens discuss their opinions on the matter with us.

But I can just see the religionistas now... they'd be trying to get the aliens to convert and pray to jesus...

[pchang]

Why

would aliens spend huge resources to come to other planets? Curiousity. Would there be commercial reasons? THe only one I can think of is to sample our genetic diversity to see if there is some sort of protein or process they could use.

Sending actual live aliens would be very expensive. We send robotic probes ourselves. Aliens would most likely do the same. So any aliens we see would most likely be some sort of organic artificial helper or something.

[Sava]

Re: Why

Originally posted by pchang
would aliens spend huge resources to come to other planets? Curiousity. Would there be commercial reasons? THe only one I can think of is to sample our genetic diversity to see if there is some sort of protein or process they could use.

Sending actual live aliens would be very expensive. We send robotic probes ourselves. Aliens would most likely do the same. So any aliens we see would most likely be some sort of organic artificial helper or something.

yeah but who knows what kind of mentality they would have? Maybe they would purely by searching for knowledge? I'd like to think an advanced alien civilization has progressed beyond thinking like "capitalists".

[Urban Ranger]

Maybe the Vulcans were looking for new members for the Federation, but we are too primitive without the warp drive.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Natalinasmpf
I read even somewhere that there is rather staggering evidence for a nuclear war between the civilization of Atlantis and the Hindus that wiped out much of civilization (and thus made it primitive again)...how else to explain that the radiation at some of the ancient sites are as much as Hiroshoma?

Which ancient sites have radiation levels the same as Hiroshima at what point in time?

[chequita guevara]

I think he was joking, UR.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by JohnT
The problem with this argument, as applied to "gov't conspires to keep alien visitations secret", is that plenty of people do believe it... and they still haven't gathered even a scintilla of credible, undeniable evidence after 50 years of looking.

I am aware of that. I was just pointing out that the fact that the fact the government can't keep secrets for very long isn't a valid counter-argument. If no one believes you, it doesn't matter if the secret's out.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I think he was joking, UR.

Not sure about that. There are some rather bizarre views out there. I remember hearing something about a similar thing when I was a kid, about a nuclear war in ancient India and stuff.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I remember hearing something about a similar thing when I was a kid, about a nuclear war in ancient India and stuff.

And now their at it again.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Solver
You old bunch are hard to convince without a good lesson . So anyone who wants to be convinced should apply to me for a nice lecture. In modern ufology, not that ancient stuff.

Please, enlighten us. I'd be interested to hear such "evidence," as I've seen all of the purported "evidence" the Pyramid was the work of aliens being torn to shreds by learned Egyptologists, anthropologists, historians, etc.

Really, the Pyramids wasn't the engineering "miracle" seem to think. It required enormous manpower, but Egypt certainly had that, as well as free time due to the flooding seasons. And even this may not have been necessary, if the theory is correct that the blocks were actually a limestone concrete that was poured on-site, rather than huge blocks hauled from quarries. The architecture is basic geometry. There wasn't anything miraculous about it at all.

Certainly, some supposed Alien race who had the technology to somehow travel here (how did they do that, anyway?) would have been able to produce a far more impressive technological feat than the Pyramid.

And what about all those previous pyramids that were the prototypes? There is a very clear succession of pyramid-building in Egypt that shows early, failed attempts and less-successful ones that build up to Cheops. Seems to me that would indicate the Great Pyramid was just the ultimate in a long line of monument-making.

And did these aliens help the pyramid-building that went on in Mesoamerica centuries later? I mean, if the ancient brown people of Egypt were too dumb to build a pyramid without extraterrestial help, I don't see why the ancient brown people of Mexico should be able to do it.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
if the theory is correct that the blocks were actually a limestone concrete that was poured on-site, rather than huge blocks hauled from quarries.

Aha! But where did the Ancient Egyptians get their huge concrete mixing cement trucks? Huh?

Obviously they needed the Alien cement trucks to pour the concrete. Come to think of those rotating ufos do look like huge cement mixers............

[Solver]

Boris, the main evidence lies not in the engineer details, but rather in the astronomical orientation of the pyramid, its locations and the Texts of Pyramids. Mind you, traditional egyptologists get many things wrong anyway. So those are the first things to consider.

Speaking of how aliens travel. At least those that get to Earth now are doing that using a poweful space-time distortion, which is created thanks to gravity waves that are then amplified and cause said distortion.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Solver
At least those that get to Earth now are doing that using a poweful space-time distortion, which is created thanks to gravity waves that are then amplified and cause said distortion.

You should file that with the patent office.

[Solver]

I have a more detailed description of that, too .

[JohnT]

Boris, the main evidence lies not in the engineer details, but rather in the astronomical orientation of the pyramid, its locations and the Texts of Pyramids. Mind you, traditional egyptologists get many things wrong anyway. So those are the first things to consider.

Again, this assumes that ancient people were dumber than us, that they couldn't look at the stars themselves, assign meanings to their annual movements, and align the pyramids to meet their religious demands. The Egyptians were no different: they knew that when Sirius rose in the east, just ahead of the sun, that the time for the Nile's annual flood was imminent, especially in 2,500 BCE, when Sirius' rise was exactly on the first day of Spring.

However, the alignment of the pyramids do not coincide with Orions belt, as many would have you believe. The alignment is off, the spacing is wrong, even when compensating for stellar drift over the past 4,500 years what you're left with is a mere approximation. As a matter of fact, the closest match between the pyramids and Orion's belt occurred in 10,500 BCE (appx. 8,000 years before the pyramids were built) - and even then, it's nowhere close to "matching" mathematically.