Tax the rich!!!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
No one is really clear on what you do propose, other than that rich people are bad and lazy and don't deserve their money.

-Arrian

No people with specific characteristics are bad. Those characteristics create their bias though, with the rare exception of those who are capable of seeing their own bias and willing to think outside of it.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
No, they'll be *****ing about the fact that they can't afford a decent place to live while working two jobs and can't afford to have someone look after the kids . . . OMFG, that sounds just like today. :rolleye:

I take it you haven't seen Kidicious' posts.

[Arrian]

It doesn't require a book, or at least shouldn't. COST OF LIVING, people! Damn.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Kidicious


No people with specific characteristics are bad. Those characteristics create their bias though, with the rare exception of those who are capable of seeing their own bias and willing to think outside of it.

Whatever, Kid. I was there for the capitalist/communist threads. I remember your posts about rich people. Come on now, you know what you said... repeatedly and at length.

Anyways, I really don't want to rehash that now.

-Arrian

[chequita guevara]

Arrian, there are lots of things that shouldn't be, yet are. Take Republicans for example.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


Whatever, Kid. I was there for the capitalist/communist threads. I remember your posts about rich people. Come on now, you know what you said... repeatedly and at length.

Anyways, I really don't want to rehash that now.

-Arrian

I don't make generalizations about people. If you have proof present it (in context please).

[Arrian]

Mmm, yeah. And Commies.

-Arrian

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I take it you haven't seen Kidicious' posts.

I may have skipped a few pages.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I don't make generalizations about people. If you have proof present it (in context please).

Oh COME ON! You are going to pretend that you didn't make sweeping generalizations about rich people?

It would almost be worth it to search for the old threads and quote you. Almost. But not quite. I'm leaving now to go take my dog to training class (he needs it, ok, he's a rescue and his former owner didn't do **** with him, which is of course one of the reasons I now have him). Maybe tomorrow if this thread is still active.

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


Oh COME ON! You are going to pretend that you didn't make sweeping generalizations about rich people?

It would almost be worth it to search for the old threads and quote you. Almost. But not quite. I'm leaving now to go take my dog to training class (he needs it, ok, he's a rescue and his former owner didn't do **** with him, which is of course one of the reasons I now have him). Maybe tomorrow if this thread is still active.

-Arrian

You misunderstood me. Why won't you accept what I'm telling you now, that I'm not classist against rich people?

[Arrian]

Ok, fine. You're not classist against rich people.

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
Ok, fine. You're not classist against rich people.

-Arrian

[chequita guevara]

There's nothing wrong with being prejudiced against the rulers of society. I'm sure their little feelings are so hurt by us nobodies while they plot their schemes of world domination.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Ming
I already pay big taxes... which I have no choice.
But I also give time and money to charities that fund programs that help people help themselves. Many people need help, and are willing to work hard. I want to help those people. I have very little interest in helping people who have no interest in helping themselves, and are lazy, and are just looking for a free ride.

If you want a socialist society... fine... I don't... I don't really see why the lazy should leach off the hard working.

But the lazy leaching off the hard working is exactly what wealth inheritance is all about! Not one of the recipients of large inheritances that I know works hard anymore. They are pissing away their families legacy on easy non productive living.

For those who want to actually maintain a legacy even the current tax laws make excemptions so that an entire family business can be transfered upon death of the owner to an inheritor with no estate tax involved.

It is truly bizarre watching you state exactly the values that cause me to accept the estate tax as a healthy thing and then state that you are opposed to it. Do you really care about lazy leaching off the hard working or not?

[Japher]

But the lazy leaching off the hard working is exactly what wealth inheritance is all about! Not one of the recipients of large inheritances that I know works hard anymore.

Isn't that better than some old geezer toiling away at something they love to do and getting paid well for it but has no time to actually spend the money?

Most of the rich are hard workers because they love what they do and are good at it. Most of these ppl are not doing what they are doing to make money so they can retire... Most never do.

Dems are always arguing that if you give the money to the lower classes than they are more likely to spend it, putting the money where it belongs back in the system. They do, however, fail to mention that the rich do not keep their money in a vault in the backyard under a rock... Still, you complain about ppl inheriting money and than just spending it. Sounds like jealousy to me, or even worse; greed.

Regardless, I am always against double or even triple taxation. Saying that someones heirs needs to be taxed because money (that has already been taxed 100 times over) is being given to them is, IMO, silly. It is that persons money and they can do what they want with it, and it shouldn't be a outlet for the government to stick their little greedy hands in once again.

I think it's all about supply and demand. Ppl would be more willing to buy certain things if they didn't cost so much. Reduce sales taxes instead of income taxes, and tax the money only at it's source, and let people do what they want with it.