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  • #61
    Re: Americans: If the UK had a supreme court..

    Originally posted by Park Avenue
    This just seems anti-democratic, and dare I say it, fascist.
    How so?

    There's nothing democratic about joining the police force or its policies. If you run afoul of its rules and regulations you'll be dismissed, simple as that.
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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    • #62
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      Do you really want to compare anti-terror laws in the US and UK? You wouldn't like the answer you'd get.
      Come on then smartarse...don't think you can call my bluff on this one...compare away rather than make glib comments.
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Park Avenue
        And Provost, before your latest meandering little whines, I suggest you read the first post of this thread again. Carefully this time.
        No Stewart, the point I made was quite valid for the debate...answer to it...
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #64
          Well I was saying, if it is a legitimate and registered political party, you shouldn't be discriminated against for being a part of it.

          "I won't discriminate against you politically, so long as I agree with your politics!"

          Or do you not believe in political freedom?
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          • #65
            It seem an unusual angle for the police to tackle it from, but BNP policy is (supposedly) the antithesis of what the modern police force are supposed to stand for. The BNP, has they have been demonstrating recently, are not that 'legitimate' a party as they would have you believe...
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • #66
              Are you for political freedom or not?

              Or just the political freedom of people and parties whose beliefs are close to yours?
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Park Avenue
                Are you for political freedom or not?

                Or just the political freedom of people and parties whose beliefs are close to yours?
                What does this have anything to do with political freedom?
                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                  What does this have anything to do with political freedom?
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                  • #69
                    We are not talking political freedoms here though. If they were just a plain anti-immigration, nationalist party then it wouldn't be an issue. Hell, the UK independence party or the Tories even follow that line...and they are not an issue. But it is all the other crap that goes with the BNP, the criminal history of it's executive and it's involvement in hate crimes. Do you think a boring old right wing party would court this amount of controversy for no reason?
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Park Avenue


                      What does racial discrimination have anything to do with political freedom?
                      Last edited by Urban Ranger; July 28, 2004, 06:00.
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Park Avenue
                        freedom of political affiliation isn't freedom to affiliate with a political party of the state's choosing, it's absolute freedom. And we plainly do not have that.
                        No, we don't. But this isn't about state, it's about the police force as an employer. If you work against your employers policies, they will fire you. If you're employer believes punctuality is paramount, and you don't, there is a problem. If your employer is committed to equal opportunities, and you aren't, there is a problem.
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                        But he would think of something
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                        • #72
                          Drogue, then it comes down to what employers are allowed to discriminate on.

                          They are allowed to discriminate on time-keeping skills.

                          They aren't allowed to discriminate on race.

                          Do you think they should discriminate on political beliefs?

                          And "equal opportunities" are a sham and always will be designed to give an unfair an unnecessary advantage to anyone who isn't a white male.
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                          • #73
                            They are allowed to discriminate on anything that is contrary to doing your job. Being a racist is contrary to being a police officer, who is supposed to actively encourage race relations.

                            And your comment shows just that. They're committed to equal opportunities, you're not, hence you couldn't do that job.
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                            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                            But he would think of something
                            "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                            • #74
                              "Being a racist is contrary to being a police officer, who is supposed to actively encourage race relations."

                              OK, fair enough, if racist behaviour is displayed then I would completely agree with you.

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                              • #75
                                This only seems unreasonable if you accept Park Avenue's fantasy world view of the BNP.
                                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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