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Azazel, I wouldn't fight for religion either. Except if someone would try to impose their religion to me with violence and declare war on me because of my religion, they would die in my hands and their families would suffer for 7 generations for their ancestors sins. The brutal sight would be described in poems for hundreds of years and songs would be sang as it was the day of hatred and anger and good prevailed! ALLLLL HAIL TO MEEEE!!!
In da butt.
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"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.
You can't ban a religion. Won't work. We can however be honest with ourselves about the nature of the threat.
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
i suppose that's somewhat true. for the catholics of ireland, those damn protestants, well they were a violent threat.
and good thing the japanese banned christianity, because, after all, it was a christian nation that trounced them in ww2.
a christian nation that, no less, annihialated mostly catholics and the underclass in nagasaki...
then again, papists aren't quite christian, are they?
Azazel, I wouldn't fight for religion either. Except if someone would try to impose their religion to me with violence and declare war on me because of my religion, they would die in my hands and their families would suffer for 7 generations for their ancestors sins.
Did you even bother looking up the surahs to see if their summaries were accurate? I just picked one of your summaries a random...
Stealing is punished by the amputation of the hands (surah 5:38)
i quote from an english translation...
As for the man or woman who is guilty of theft, cut off their hands to punish them for their crimes. That is the punishment enjoined by God. God is mighty and wise. But whoever repents after committing evil, and mends his ways, shall be pardoned by God. God is forgiving and merciful
check mate
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Here are some different translations of suran 2:228:
Yusuf Ali: Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what God Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in God and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And God is Exalted in Power, Wise.
Zohurul Hoque: And the divorced women must keep themselves waiting for three courses. And it is not lawful for them to conceal that which Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the Future Day. And their husbands have a better right to take them back in the meanwhile, if they wish for reconciliation. And they have rights similar to those against them in a just manner. Yet men have a stage above them. And Allah is Exalted in Might, most Wise.
T. J. Irving: Divorced women should wait [alone] by themselves for three menstrual periods; it is not lawful for them to hide what God has created in their wombs if they believe in God and the Last Day. Their husband ought to take them back meanwhile in case they want a reconciliation. Women have the same [rights in relation to their husbands] as are expected in all decency from them; while men stand a step above them. God is Powerful, Wise.
T.U. Hilali-M. Khan: And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allâh has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allâh and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses, etc.) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect, etc.) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
M. Pickthall: Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise.
M.H. Shakir: And the divorced women should keep themselves in waiting for three courses; and it is not lawful for them that they should conceal what Allah has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allah and the last day; and their husbands have a better right to take them back in the meanwhile if they wish for reconciliation; and they have rights similar to those against them in a just manner, and the men are a degree above them, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
Yeah, right wing Christians are the end of the world. I don't remember any beheading any civilians lately.
And for you "OMFG YOU ARE DROPPING BOMBS AND THAT IS THE SAME THING!!!" crowd. We live in democracies, so all of you are cuplable for not stopping them. Murders.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
Yeah, right wing Christians are the end of the world. I don't remember any beheading any civilians lately.
right wing christians do not speak for the christian majority any mroe than extremist terrorist muslims speak for the muslim majority.
i just find it ridiculous to want to "ban" a faith because its texts may have some less-than-savory parts.
furthermore, a lot of that brutality, surprise, surprise, ends up occuring only in third-world or developing nations, whether or not they are muslim. to muddle the brutality that arises from primitive conditions with a religion that in its more modern forms disavows as much of its brutal past as christian religions do...
Originally posted by Patroklos
Yeah, right wing Christians are the end of the world. I don't remember any beheading any civilians lately.
That's cause they've lost the artistic edge. Far easier to shoot the family planning clinic's doctor with a sniper rifle. You don't miss Oprah that way.
Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard Dawkins
That's cause they've lost the artistic edge. Far easier to shoot the family planning clinic's doctor with a sniper rifle. You don't miss Oprah that way.
and this has happened how many times?
and was supported (publicly) by how many Christians?
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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