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  • #91
    U.S. troops are in South Korea because it benifits both nations. If and when it no longer does (or more likely, after that, when people REALIZE it no longer does) benifit one of us, or both of us, they will go.

    Personally, I think we're already there. SK can defend itself, and if it needs help, we can assist via aircover from Japan. But maintaining troops in a country that is increasingly nationalistic and anti-american strikes me as dumb. The troops will just make that trend worse.

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #92
      Arrian: The ROK wants the troops there because they will be killed in the opening salvo of a DPRK assault and force US intervention in the conflict. It's the reason they raised so much hell when we moved some troops away from the DMZ.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #93
        I understand the "tripwire" idea. I just don't buy it. I think we would defend them anyway, without a division of ours being wiped out on the first day.

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #94
          We're in the process of moving all of our troops from the DMZ and Seoul anyway. The SK is dithering in order to try to stop the move.

          Eventually, I think we'll just get exasperated about SK foot dragging and move all of our troops out of there. At least that's what I hope.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #95
            I doubt it but I would like the ROK to resolve the schizoid conflicts thier anti-Americanism seems to force to the forefront at times. "I hate you and view you as a bigger threat than the DPRK! Please don't leave me!"
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #96
              It's just the unreality of SK politics that confounds me. How can we base an alliance on such stuff? We have to protect our interests in this situation, because they're schizoid and are going to stay schizoid.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #97
                "I hate you and view you as a bigger threat than the DPRK! Please don't leave me!"


                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #98
                  paiktis is a pretty poor troll, isn't he?
                  Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                  It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                  The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                  • #99
                    Yes. I wonder why I can see his posts, though. I don't remember taking him off my ignore list...

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #100
                      I don't think he's a troll. I think he's just a genuine idiot.

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                      • #101
                        Hrm, seems like my ignore list just got wiped. I can see PA too. I think I'll leave pattycakes off for now... he can actually be kinda funny.

                        -Arrian
                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #102
                          Less money would be put into military and more into economic development. Also, there is no sign that a unified Korea wouldn't moderate, just like Vietnam and the PRC.

                          there are no signs that a unified korea would have moderated, seeing as KIM il-sung held a rather tight grip on power.

                          all things said, i'm glad there were anti-communist authoritarian leaders in a capitalist, pseudo-democratic south, because the drive they had towards enriching the people through the fat cats with trickle-down economics, while it didn't quite work, led to a middle class which got so thoroughly pissed at being bossed around that their kids protested and rioted until they got what they wanted, and no tanks rolled over them.
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                          • #103
                            [UR]The Chinese never ran tanks over people either, that's just capitalist lies[/UR]

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                              I don't think he's a troll. I think he's just a genuine idiot.
                              I guess it does not make a whole lot of difference.
                              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                                [UR]The Chinese never ran tanks over people either, that's just capitalist lies[/UR]
                                You know, maybe there is no spoon?
                                Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                                Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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