Senate officially opens debate on Gay Marriage Amendment.

[Solly]

Firstly by mass public complaint. Then by whatever means necessary.

A peaceful solution unless the gays don't want one.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Then by whatever means necessary.

Up to and including assault, or up to and including murder?

[Ramo]

Stewie's going to organize some brown shirts.

[KrazyHorse]

Let's see if PA knows anything about Canadian history

by whatever means necessary

By whatever means necessary? How far would you take that?

[Solly]

"Up to and including assault, or up to and including murder?"

I believe that would not be necessary.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
Foot fetish?

Horses for courses and all that lot, and whatever goes on between two consenting adults. Although I must admit, I find the idea rather icky...

[ixnay]

Jon Stewart: For more on the gay marriage controversy, we turn to Daily Show senior moral authority, Steven Colbert. Steven, thanks for joining us, we appreciate you being here. Steven, obviously you're something of an expert on relationships. Having by your own count, been involved in over 300 of them by your, I believe, your 21st birthday.

Steven Colbert: And, 10 more on my 21st birthday, John. It was, it was quite a night.

JS: Steven, why has same sex marriage created such a furor?

SC: John, there's a simple fact here: marriage is a contract between a man and a woman. An often violated, easily broken, eminently disposable contract. Between a man and a woman. The minute we let gays and female gays...

JS: That's uh, that's lesbians.

SC: Them. The minute we let them get married, you're breaking down the last societal barrier between our world and their world.

JS: But, I think that's the point. I think the point is that when you break down those barriers, that's a metaphor for something positive.

SC: Look, Jon, he only reason my wife and I got married in the first place was because it was something gays couldn't do. Our wedding was conceived entirely as a giant homosexual taunt. But now, now the vows I made to my wife seem as shallow and empty as the vows I made to my three previous wives.

JS: But I'm not still seeing, and again, I haven't studied it like you have. But how do two people who have nothing to do with you, how does their personal decision impact your commitment.

SC: Well Jon, here's a for instancestance. [sic] My wife and I have been through a bit of a rough patch lately. Over the last few months, I've forgotten our anniversary, her birthday, on several occasions, her name. Now, I ask you Jon, is this because of some magic pattern of emotional neglect just dropped down from the sky to ruin my marriage? Isn't it the simpler answer that hundreds of gays were granted judicial permission to seek equal contributory benefits? Connect the dots, man.

JS: But Steven, ...

SC: Oh, and I banged her personal trainer.

JS: [shocked pause]

SC: I'm telling you, it's getting bad.

JS: Well then, I guess, you know, you feel so strongly, you would probably support the constitutional amendment banning same-sex unions.

SC: Absolutely, Jon. I know a constitutional amendment is a drastic step. But there's a societal trend out there I disagree with, so, what other choice is there? We have to defend the institution of marriage.

JS: Well, to defend the institution then, would you also support a constitutional amendment against adultery? Because that's really...

SC: Whoa. Whoa. Listen, comrade. Get your jack-booted thugs out of my bedroom. Or rather, one of several undisclosed bedrooms. And, one time behind the lat machine. That was awesome. She's really fit.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Park Avenue

Because the public don't want to see it, nor their children, in order for them not to be affected.

Heterosexuals do not suffer any negative effects from seeing homosexual couples holding hands in public.

The only heterosexuals that have a problem with it, are those who are ignorant about these issues, and/or they homosexuals.

[Solly]

"Heterosexuals do not suffer any negative effects from seeing homosexual couples holding hands in public."

What about the three-year old kid, who starts to think it's normal and becomes gay himself. Or is that OK to you, to corrupt little children against the wishes of the parents.

[Last Conformist]

You need ask?

I seriously doubt, BTW, that seeing gays hold hands will turn kids homosexual. The opposite obviously doesn't work with kids that see heteros holding hands and nonetheless grow up to be gay.

[Solly]

"I seriously doubt, BTW"

Why? Don't kids learn from what they see?

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
What about the three-year old kid, who starts to think it's normal and becomes gay himself. Or is that OK to you, to corrupt little children against the wishes of the parents.

You have a very warped and naive view of the world. Sexuality just isn't defined like that. Tell me, why do people still become homosexual when all they see are heterosexual relationships. The other part of the story being swept under the carpet just makes it very hard for homosexuals to come to terms with who they are, that is the truth of the matter.

And I certainly do not like your use of the words 'normal' and 'corrupt'. There is nothing state your frame of reference is correct. You have no moral authority.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
"I seriously doubt, BTW"

Why? Don't kids learn from what they see?

Did you even read the rest of my paragraph? I explicitly spelt out a good reason to believe they don't learn from what they see in this case.

[red_jon]

I once held hands with my boyfriend in Swansea - which is a lot less accepted in Wales than in the South East of England.

Almost everyone stared and we had a lot of abuse shouted at us.

We still carried on.

There are a lot of people out there braver than you and your imaginary mob of 'vigilantes' (though of course that's not difficult), who would carry on even if you threatened them with violence.

Gay men and women have been standing up to prejudice for a lot longer than either of us have been around. People aren't going to stop because of people like you.

[Solly]

"You have no moral authority."

And anyone actually does? All we have is opinions.