England-Portugal..the penalty spot

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by lightblue


Hmm they beat the Dutch in 2000 using penalties. Dutch also went on penalties in 1998 and 1996. Not sure about 1994 and 1992.

then look 'em up, they've had SHOCKERS!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by alva
They kicked your butt on midfield big time, so much I would have brought in an extra midfielder instead of Vassel. I think he (Eirccson) would have if Butt wouldn't have been injured.

That's true. The Portuguese had more posession time of the ball.

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III


Just jump in the train and let's have some drinks.

Next time! This time at the time of this writing I was already too drunk
And today I have a horrible hangover. ouch.

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
Next time! This time at the time of this writing I was already too drunk
And today I have a horrible hangover. ouch.

Well, [yell]Goood mooorning[/yell] then.

[Kropotkin]

Well, it's time to sum up the english teams participation in the euro 2004. I didn't see all the english matches, but one thing that I've noticed is how little the team seems to get out of Beckham's offensive qualities. I'm not a person that thinks Beckham's as good as some people seems to think, but I can't deny that he has a couple of really top class abilities. We didn't see much of that though. As far as I could tell, he often used short passes and otherwise he worked as some kind of defensive midfielder. Nothing wrong about his defence, but there's better defensive midfielders out there.

[Urban Ranger]

He can be good with penalty kicks, and sometimes he can make accurate long passes. Otherwise, he's neither a natural striker nor a hardy defender.

[Atahualpa]

[Urban Ranger]

I guess you are agreeing with me.

[Agathon]

Great game and the right result. England weren't rubbish, but they weren't great and Portugal played the more positive football.

Despite all the talk about Rooney, it is clear that England don't have a striker of the calibre of Lineker or Shearer and it shows. In fact I don't think England have had a really good team since 1990.

[Traianvs]

The rules say you're not allowed to hinder or push the keeper away when he is about to grab an airborne football. Clearly he was pushed aside by the 2 English in this case.

The English themselves are to blame because of their defensive play. But that's mainly because of their strikers like to play on the counter, especially with Owen and fast runners such as Vassal.
They played like liverpool = noob play

[Agathon]

I don't know about the Campbell goal. Give the referee a break though, he had to make an on the spot decision and in 99% of those cases the keeper gets the benefit of the doubt.

In fact I thought the referee had an outstanding game and should be credited for providing the stage for such a great contest.

[Solly]

The referee had a great game? You really are joking I hope.. lots of petty free kicks, and soft decisions. Maybe it's just we're used to watching English games where the threshold for a foul might be somewhat higher, I don't know, we prefer a tougher, more physical game of football, not one where you have players screaming because they tripped over someone's foot..

We gave a good account of ourselves, and it's made me glad that the most of the stories of this tournament so far seemed to have revolved around England

I mean, we outnumbered Portuguese fans in their own stadium in their own country - if there's anything that will be remember, THAT will be it. Has it ever happened before at an international tournament?

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
...and it's made me glad that the most of the stories of this tournament so far seemed to have revolved around England

They have?

It might have something to do with you being in the UK and all. From my viewpoint, not much have been about England at all.

[MikeH]

It gave good perspective to spend a week in Switzerland during the tournament and speak to a load of people from different countries.

Lots of other stuff happening to other countries. Rooney has been a big story but there have been plenty of others.

[Frozzy]

Give the referee a break though, he had to make an on the spot decision and in 99% of those cases the keeper gets the benefit of the doubt.

But he overruled an assistant referee who had a much better view of the goal