SCOTUS tells Newdow to piss off

[Kuciwalker]

His point is that the school is forcing children to hear it - which is different from just hearing it from a private citizen.

Still an idiot though.

[Drogue]

You don't allow students to pray in school, why is the pledge being religious any different? You have a right not to see/hear people pray, unless it's part of the pledge of allegiance?

[MrFun]

I got news for this whiner -- whenever you go to any public place or institution, you run the risk of putting yourself in situations where you will hear something that might turn your eardrums inside out, or whatever horrible thing that happens when this does occur.

This parent should have realized this.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Drogue
You don't allow students to pray in school, why is the pledge being religious any different? You have a right not to see/hear people pray, unless it's part of the pledge of allegiance?

A clarification. The shcools can not infringe upon the right of individual(s) to partake in prayer if they so choose. They can not mandate a prayer time or public prayer.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
The latest installment in my long standing tradition of cut-and-paste crap posting.

[sweet sauce mode]
Though technically this is copy-paste crap posting, unless you somehow managed to delete the article from the CNN website...
[/sweet sauce mode]

[Drogue]

Originally posted by MrFun
I got news for this whiner -- whenever you go to any public place or institution, you run the risk of putting yourself in situations where you will hear something that might turn your eardrums inside out, or whatever horrible thing that happens when this does occur.

This parent should have realized this.

Not when you don't have a choice of whether to go on not. You can choose not to go to a church, or to any other place prayer is likely to take place. You cannot choose to not go to school. Unless you can in the US

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So, now someone with standing will bring a suit. While technically correct, this was not a win, but a postponement.

God don't belong in the pledge, which was written by a socialist, and thus presumably, an atheist.

I thought that he was a Baptist Minister (According to the cut n paste)

Jon Miller

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drogue

Not when you don't have a choice of whether to go on not. You can choose not to go to a church, or to any other place prayer is likely to take place. You cannot choose to not go to school. Unless you can in the US

You can choose which school to send your kids to.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Or home school 'em.

[MrFun]

If a parent is this whiny about the whole damn pledge thingie, then instead of being a narcistic, egotistic whiner who wants to get some media attention, he would have looked into what schools in the area have what kind of policy and THEN send his kid to the right school for his preference in the FIRST place.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by MrFun
You can choose which school to send your kids to.

Not where I come from. There were a whole slew of hoops to jump through if you wanted to send your kids to a school out of your district, because schools are locally funded for the most part (so it's not as though they'd make it easy for me to transfer to a school in Richville so as to reap the benefits of their absurdly high property taxes). Not to mention the inconvenience (if not impossibility) of actually transporting your kids to the out-of-district school on a daily basis -- bus services were also managed within each district.

[Drogue]

Can you choose a school that doesn't recite the pledge with under God in it?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Point is this whiny 'parent' had no parental rights to pick and choose which school his child was going to. Hence the supposed reason why this ***** decided to take it to the courts.

[GePap]

IIRC Bellamy, who wrote it, was a minister, so he was not an aethist-since socialist anbd aethist are not equal. It simply sounds better without it anyways-that caluse is clumsy.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by loinburger

Not where I come from. There were a whole slew of hoops to jump through if you wanted to send your kids to a school out of your district, because schools are locally funded for the most part (so it's not as though they'd make it easy for me to transfer to a school in Richville so as to reap the benefits of their absurdly high property taxes). Not to mention the inconvenience (if not impossibility) of actually transporting your kids to the out-of-district school on a daily basis -- bus services were also managed within each district.

different strokes for different folks (your situation is not the same as everyone else's)