SCOTUS tells Newdow to piss off

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Kucinich
As a side note, we're watching a movie version of "Much Ado About Nothing" in English today

Precisely.

[Imran Siddiqui]

it ain't gonna happen

That's what you say now. The right-wing conspiracy grabbed us all

[MrFun]

Originally posted by loinburger

MrFunisms aside, I'm just trying to figure out how you go about determining when somebody should try to change the system if they don't like it, and when somebody should stop whining and just take their lumps instead. I mean, obviously there are a fair number of people (and, IIRC, you're one of them) who have decided that attempting to legalize gay marriage in the US is a worthwhile cause despite the fact that gays trying to get married here could just movie to Canada and get married there instead. And yet you say that Newdow should have just kept his trap shut because he's "whiny." Is there something you're not telling us here? Or have you just given up on trying to be consistent?

If you can show me how a person's rights are being violated by hearing something that he/she does not want to hear, then I will definitely take this issue more seriously.

[Straybow]

So why don't the whiners petition their congressperson to introduce or support legislation that changes the pledge? Because they know dam well that the majority agrees with it as-is, and most of those who wouldn't say they agree with it are apathetic. "No harm, no foul."

The Left is accustomed to using the courts to accomplish things that they couldn't do in the full light of day, and this is no different. It is a relief when the courts won't play that game.

[Odin]

F*cking Reagan-era justices.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Straybow
So why don't the whiners petition their congressperson to introduce or support legislation that changes the pledge? Because they know dam well that the majority agrees with it as-is, and most of those who wouldn't say they agree with it are apathetic. "No harm, no foul."

The Left is accustomed to using the courts to accomplish things that they couldn't do in the full light of day, and this is no different. It is a relief when the courts won't play that game.

I bet a lot of liberals want to take off the religious crap of stuff, but they win't risk it after Walter Mondale's specacular performance in 1984.

[Thorn]

One day there will be a world when the mention of the term God without refering to me specifically will result in the death penalty....

[St Leo]

Lilliputians think that the pledge should include "Under Gawd".

Blefuscans think that it shouldn't.

I don't think there should be a pledge at all.

[Lefty Scaevola]

It is a general characteristic of applelate courts, that they prefer to dispose of a case on the least significant grounds available.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So, now someone with standing will bring a suit. While technically correct, this was not a win, but a postponement.

God don't belong in the pledge, which was written by a socialist, and thus presumably, an atheist.

You know given what was said even in the minority opinion, and that thy delivered the decision on Flag Day (for goshsakes), I suspect that future decisions on this won't go your way for a long time.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Thorn
One day there will be a world when the mention of the term God without refering to me specifically will result in the death penalty....

god will smite you with that attitude, there does that count

[St Leo]

Why would I smite Thorn?

Oh, yeah, I remember now.^-^

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MrFun
from article: "Newdow said it becomes unconstitutional when students are forced to hear it."

I did not know we have the right to be free from being offended.

So if it supports your beliefs, it doesn't matter whether or not it is a violation of the Constitution?

The state has no place affirming the existence of a diety.

As for telling people to just go to another school, unless you live in a big city, that requires moving or other unreasonable expenses. People should not have to be forced to withdraw from public activities in order to have their rights not violated by the state.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MrFun
Ok, I'm beginning to understand how some people who used to be liberal, eventually became conservative later in life because of all this fluffed up political correctness nonsense.

I am sure Christians will be offended if the kids are to recite something with "...there is no God..." in it.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Proper ruling was made here. I still have no idea how the lower courts thought Newdow had any standing.

I see. Fit to pay the bills, but STFU after that, is it?