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  • #91
    /me has a theory.


    I think the reason why Voldemort wanted to kill Harry along with Lily and James was that Harry was the last remaining descendant (descendent?) of Godric Gryffindor. It's really the only reason he'd be determined to kill the whole family.
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    • #92
      I think the reason why Voldemort wanted to kill Harry along with Lily and James was that Harry was the last remaining descendant (descendent?) of Godric Gryffindor. It's really the only reason he'd be determined to kill the whole family.
      I think that is what I was getting at... thanks

      but then, why would the sorting had want to put him in Slitherin?
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      • #93
        Because of the whole "a bit of Voldemort's power transferred to Harry in the incident" thing.

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        • #94
          There is no way that Snape is still working for Voldemort, I'm sorry. Drake, you may be right about your "plot" ideas, but it won't be Snape in that role- it'll be Draco. Somehow, I bet, Draco will come into Voldemort's confidence and then betray it.

          One more idea on Snape. I haven't read the fan sites so I don't know how popular this theory is, but could Snape be a vampire? We don't know much about vampires in Rowling's world, but people do make sarcastic remarks about Snape being able to turn into a bat or sleeping in a coffin, and we all know that sarcastic side comments are often clues in disguise. Plus, Snape lives in a dungeon and always seems to be up at inconvenient times at night, as if he doesn't really sleep much at all. It also might explain his excellent grasp of occulency- vampires and their various mental powers.

          On the other hand, he definitely walks around in sunlight, even if he's pale, so that'd have to be an unusual quirk Rowling's vampires would have to have to explain that theory.

          This may be an old discredit theory to some people, I don't know.

          Speaking of which, I bet Snape will be the Defense against the Dark Arts teacher in Book 7. That should make for an interesting class.
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          • #95
            OK, the theory to end all theories... Snape is the one who helped Harry escape his would be demise agains Voldemortey when he was a child, and Snape is just mad that he didn't join Slitherin. He did this because he secretly loved Lilly and was trying to protect her, but messed up somehow, and instead helped Harry. So now he is mad that Harry chose Gryffindor over Slitherin since that is where his dad was, and Snape hated James.

            Not only that but Harry IS the decendent of Gryffindoor, and Snape, with his sinister mind, was hoping to get Harry into Slitherin where he could mold Potter to become a great fighter with powerful and sinister allies such that they could fight Vold. more successfully, and possibly lure some old faithfuls of his over to Harry's side. Yet, this did not happen. Instead Harry got some seemingly incapable friends to help protect him. Perhapse Snape did something to himself to help protect Harry, and maybe Snape dislikes mudbloods and the like, but who cares...

            So now Snape is mad/resentful of Harry from ignorantly deciding not to join Slitherin. He is also scared for his life, from Vold., for if he was Harry's head teacher he would at least have a shield from him until he could of trained Harry.

            Snape is the one who betrayed Vold. only Vold does not know this, because Snape is good at blocking his thoughts. Is Snape a vampire? Probably not.
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            • #96
              at Imran and Drake.

              I'm with Imran on the Harry/Ginny thing.

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              • #97
                Also, why did the sorting hat want to put Harry in Slitherin? Why did ne get put in Griffendor? IMO there is something to the history that has to do with the future, and Dumbledore knows what it is, but is doing nothing to let fate play it out. I think Harry's natural skills has something to do with this, and may parseltongue is not something left on him by Voldamort


                This was described in Chamber of Secrets. Some of Voldemort's power was absorbed by Harry on that night. That is partially why the hat wanted to put Harry in Slytherin. Of course, there is nothing saying Slytherin is inherently evil. Harry is born to wizard parents and has ambition. It seems he could fairly easily go into Slytherin.

                And I think it is quite obvious that if Harry ends up with anyone it'll be Ginny. I mean, Ginny/Harry matches Lilly/James in many different ways, from the one year difference to the strong willed character.

                I think the reason why Voldemort wanted to kill Harry along with Lily and James was that Harry was the last remaining descendant (descendent?) of Godric Gryffindor. It's really the only reason he'd be determined to kill the whole family.


                Or, contrary, that Voldemort is a sadistic ***** who wants to kill everyone who is against him .
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                • #98
                  And I think it is quite obvious that if Harry ends up with anyone it'll be Ginny. I mean, Ginny/Harry matches Lilly/James in many different ways, from the one year difference to the strong willed character.


                  Or, contrary, that Voldemort is a sadistic ***** who wants to kill everyone who is against him
                  He would of still had to kill harry, else risk his revenge...oops

                  I'm not entirely convinced that part of Voldemorts power was imprinted or transfered to Harry. Especially not transfered, else Voldemort wouldn't be able to do certain things that Harry can, though that isn't entirely true. IMO, that excuse it what pleases the wizards.
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                  • #99
                    I'm not entirely convinced that part of Voldemorts power was imprinted or transfered to Harry. Especially not transfered, else Voldemort wouldn't be able to do certain things that Harry can, though that isn't entirely true.


                    It's not that his power were taken from him and given to Harry, its that Harry got some of the powers that Voldemort had because of the reaction between the spells. Voldemort, or rather his shell, kept his powers, but Harry gained some of them as well, like Parseltongue.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                    • It's not that his power were taken from him and given to Harry, its that Harry got some of the powers that Voldemort had because of the reaction between the spells. Voldemort, or rather his shell, kept his powers, but Harry gained some of them as well, like Parseltongue.
                      I don't buy it. How could that happen?! It would never happen in real life like that

                      I still don't buy it. Even the JK hasn't lied yet. If she wants you to keep guessing she just doesn't tell you.
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                      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Or, contrary, that Voldemort is a sadistic ***** who wants to kill everyone who is against him .
                        Yeah, he's obviously registered Democrat........

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                        • Bah. The tripe of Harry/Ginny again. If Harry ends up with anybody, it's surely Luna. What's this doing polluting a Snape thread, anyway?
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                          • I agree that I think (hope) that Harry remains unattached by the end of Book Seven. I even hope that young Master Radcliffe is correct in thinking that Harry might have to die in order to defeat Voldemort. It certainly would make a lot of sense in the universe Rowling has constructed, and it also would make good literature.

                            Back to the "most loyal" and whatnot, aren't we forgetting a few Death Eaters? Specifically, the ones who escaped Azkaban, and specifically among those, Ms. Lestrange?
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                            • A few points -

                              Luna is also a year younger than Harry.

                              I think that the Harry / Ginny connection would be a bit too easy in tersm of story. The relationship would lack interest and development, to me at least.

                              I suspect that Snape may even become the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher next year. Because, in order for Harry to become an Auror, he has to take potions. His best OWL will probably not be enough to get into Snape's NEWT class, so a new potions professor will be brought in who will allow Harry into the upper level potions class.

                              That way, Harry will be able to continue in his Auror training.
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                              • Plus, Snape has been lusting for the DADA position since the beginning; he's destined to get it sooner or later. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get it in Book Six.

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