To be "cultured"

[JohnT]

Asher, you've never been very fond of the humanities, have you?

Don't worry about it - once you get out in the Real World, it doesn't matter whether you like ballet or NASCAR, the only thing that matters is the amount of jack you'll make. And I'm positive that you're going to make a bloody fortune, Asher.

However, don't discount the "cultured" things because people like... you know... think people should exist only to serve that culture. This world is a better place for having Mozart and Tolstoy and etc and etc in it, and it is never a waste of time to try to figure out why that is so. Imho, of course.

[Asher]

Originally posted by JohnT
However, don't discount the "cultured" things because people like... you know... think people should exist only to serve that culture. This world is a better place for having Mozart and Tolstoy and etc and etc in it, and it is never a waste of time to try to figure out why that is so. Imho, of course.

It's not that I have a problem with things that are stereotypically "cultured", the opposite in fact.

I have a problem with those people who slam others for not being interested in it.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Asher

For the record, usually people use quotation marks or other notation to denote quotes, you had that phrase inline with another paragraph of your own. Has no one taught you this before?

For the record, your first set of sprawling contradictory statements are within quotation marks in the relevant post.

Your second quote is in inverted commas.

There is nothing you can teach me about writing, except perhaps, how not to construct an argument, or read a post or profile.

'As for sit down and talking with molly or Agathon....I find them both so, so, so, so uselessly boring that it would kill me.'



There's an invitation to surprise you with a telephone call if ever I heard one. Perhaps I could convince Agathon to make it a conference call, I mean, we'd want to be certain....

[JohnT]

Believe it or not, the only impact they have on your life is the amount of time you allow yourself to be angry about it. If you just accept the fact that there have always been, and always will be, a group of people more interesting in maintaining touch with a dead past than in generating a living future, you'll rest more easy.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Exactly Boris! This once again supports my contention, that snobbery springs from generational issues. Artists and musicians are always reviled and misunderstood by the current generation in power, and it takes a generation to bring these artforms to a point where people can snobbishly defend them as high culture (or conversely appreciate the true genious of them).

Of course, some artistic greatness is predicated on creating something new, something that the contemporary elite would not approve of. This is what Beethoven, Wagner and Mahler did. But there's another kind of artistic greatness that is built upon mastering already accepted forms. This is the realm of Bach, Mozart and Brahms. Can we say objectively that one was better than the other? No, as all made magnificent contributions to music, if in different ways.

That it's a generational issue is natural. Welcome to the history of artistic expression. Keep in mind that the "traditionalists" like Bach and Brahms suffered as much derision in their day from avant-garde proponents as Wagner and Mahler suffered from stodgy traditionalists. It's a constant tug-of-war, and as far as I'm concerned, both sides have merit and produce valuable results. I am happy to have both Mahler and Brahms, thank you very much.

[Boris Godunov]

Damned DP. Is it the wine?

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom
For the record, your first set of sprawling contradictory statements are within quotation marks in the relevant post.

It's not in quotes near the end, which is all I read (I don't re-read my own posts). You used it inline with your own words, period...

There is nothing you can teach me about writing, except perhaps, how not to construct an argument, or read a post or profile.

I could also teach you how to avoid a comma splice.

'As for sit down and talking with molly or Agathon....I find them both so, so, so, so uselessly boring that it would kill me.'



There's an invitation to surprise you with a telephone call if ever I heard one. Perhaps I could convince Agathon to make it a conference call, I mean, we'd want to be certain....

Yes, that'd show me. Call me long distance from Australia, teach me a lesson...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Asher
I would love to have a sit down and talk with Boris, because while being stereotypically "cultured", he's also a genuinely bright and interesting guy.

I'm told I become infinitely more tolerable with the more alcohol I consume.

[Asher]

Originally posted by JohnT
Believe it or not, the only impact they have on your life is the amount of time you allow yourself to be angry about it. If you just accept the fact that there have always been, and always will be, a group of people more interesting in maintaining touch with a dead past than in generating a living future, you'll rest more easy.

But look how uppity they get once you call them out on it. It's free entertainment, man.

One thing you should know about me: I don't get upset with these kinds of threads, no matter how they turn out. It's some perverse amusement for me to argue with people like Molly, Agathon, MrNiceGuy, etc.

There's something about them that is just comical genius to me. Plus, it's an experiment in role playing and generally being silly. I'm toying with an extreme version over at CG these days.

[JohnT]

Me, I just love everybody. The world needs all types.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I'm told I become infinitely more tolerable with the more alcohol I consume.

I'm told I become infinitely more tolerable in person, but with more alcohol I become more aggressive (in more ways than one).

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Asher

(I don't re-read my own posts).

I could also teach you how to avoid a comma splice.

Firstly, if you did, you might be able to revise them and construct arguments that cohered, and secondly, no you couldn't.

'Plus, it's an experiment in role playing and generally being silly. '

At least you succeed at something.

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Firstly, if you did, you might be able to revise them and construct arguments that cohered, and secondly, no you couldn't.

I really do hate your liberal use of, what is the word, oh yes, that is the word, commas, because sometimes its a bit absurd, no, stupid.

At least you succeed at something.

I succeed at a lot of things. For example, trolling you.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Asher

I really do hate your liberal use of, what is the word, oh yes, that is the word, commas, because sometimes its a bit absurd, no, stupid.


For example, trolling you.

Re: comma usage and trolls.

See previous post.

Shooting fish in a barrel.

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Re: comma usage and trolls.

See previous post.

Shooting fish in a barrel.

You can't claim a catch against the original troll who is replying, and whose reply was to troll you. It's against the rules.

That's a 2-minute minor...