To be "cultured"

[Asher]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
It seems to me that Asher and you are mixing up 4a and 5b.

You're making no sense.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Asher

Those were his words, not mine. If he can refer to himself as that, so can I.

'what you're cultured in leads to snobiness and arrogant queens. '

They were your words: I quoted them.

'It obviously had quite an impact, if you remember it. I had forgotten about it. No wonder you didn't link it, you wanted to make people believe it was from a thread in the context of this one.'

More amnesia?

I can remember getting dog turd on my shoe- doesn't mean it made an impact, just makes me more careful of where I tread.

Yet again, you jump to conclusions, as you have done throughout this thread and others- you clearly have no idea of what I was doing, but trying to get people to believe that your rambling, incoherent contradictory statements from a previous thread were from this thread, is so far from the truth, I feel sorry for you.

'I'm not commenting on specific works, you moron. '

Again with the insults, but this is par for the course for you- I mentioned four SPECIFIC works of literature and you dismissed them as being overrated and ancient- although you had little or no experience or understanding of them.

You seem to have some serious problems with age as you'd know that a work's antiquity is no measure of its worth or relevance- as anyone who had read Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War' could tell you.

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom
They were your words: I quoted them.

More amnesia?

I would be lying if I said my mind is in its natural state these days.

For the record, usually people use quotation marks or other notation to denote quotes, you had that phrase inline with another paragraph of your own. Has no one taught you this before?

Again with the insults, but this is par for the course for you- I mentioned four SPECIFIC works of literature and you dismissed them as being overrated and ancient- although you had little or no experience or understanding of them.

That was in a completely different thread a long time ago. Link it for me, I forget what I said to troll you...

I recall dismissing them, but only because I read Canterbury Tales in school and found it a total bore, and the other three I can't remember.

You seem to have some serious problems with age as you'd know that a work's antiquity is no measure of its worth or relevance- as anyone who had read Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War' could tell you.

Actually, I have read that, back in my armchair-general days.

I don't have any charming or witty quotes that are vaguely related to what I'm talking about, but I do know 41 year old men are past middle-aged.

[Nubclear]

Insulting people for disagreeing with you is so uncultured, you idiots

[Asher]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Insulting people for disagreeing with you is so uncultured, you idiots

It's the culture of idiocy, Elder Tassadar.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Classical music/opera bores me senseless - there is no beat and nothing compelling about the music.

You should realize you haven't a clue as to what you're saying, as ALL music has a beat, especially classical. Do you think that man waving his stick in front of the orchestra is just for show?

That you find nothing compelling about a certain form of music is a personal, subjective thing. Plenty more people DO find something compelling in classical music, which is why it still sells. The problem isn't that there isn't anything compelling, it's that you're not as yet capable of being compelled by it. That speaks more of you than of any music form.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Asher

Actually, I have read that, back in my armchair-general days.

I don't have any charming or witty quotes that are vaguely related to what I'm talking about, but I do know 41 year old men are past middle-aged.

Thus, we see the difference between the verbs to read and to understand.

If you knew anything about me you'd understand that references to my age (which you eventually got right, but only after I corrected you) have no effect on me whatsoever.

'I don't have any charming or witty quotes'

Something you at last managed to get right, even though it was only about yourself- your favourite subject.

[Bereta_Eder]

amazingly enough i agree with teddy striden



edit: even though im cultured

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Thus, we see the difference between the verbs to read and to understand.

I feel the need to throw this quote from you into your wrinkled face:

Yet again, you jump to conclusions, as you have done throughout this thread and others- you clearly have no idea of what I was doing, but trying to get people to believe that your rambling, incoherent contradictory statements from a previous thread were from this thread, is so far from the truth, I feel sorry for you.

How would you know how well I understood it? Once again, you've just indirectly proved my point. I didn't like Canterbury Tales, so surely that's because I didn't understand it only. Silly simpletons.
(edit: Or, looks like you meant Art of War -- I'm not sure why you don't think I understand that, either)

If you knew anything about me you'd understand that references to my age (which you eventually got right, but only after I corrected you) have no effect on me whatsoever.

The reason I got your age "wrong" is because your birthdate is 1969 according to your profile. Amazing what people will do to pretend to be younger, and then forget that they tried to do it due to the memory lapse from old age.

Something you at last managed to get right, even though it was only about yourself- your favourite subject.

Actually, Microsoft is my favorite subject. Are you new here?

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
How is less experience not the same as less competent or inferior, as far as to that particular task or job is concerned?

Furthermore, wisdom comes from experience, not your rectum.

I work part time at an autoparts store. A co-worker of mine knows far more about cars than I do, has worked at the store for a year longer than I have, yet I am a far more competent parts delivery driver. Experience is good to have, but isn't everything.

Also, we aren't talking about specific experience, we are talking about some general experience of life, (by we I mean you and Caligasta, cause I didn't bring it up). No specific task or job has been mentioned. General experience doesn't do a person any good if the specific job lies outside of that person's "general experience". I'm just saying (at least I suppose I am, cause I don't know where this argument began, and thus don't know where I'm taking it, or how to get it back to relevence) that you cannot say adults are superior to youth because they have more experience when you are using a generalization and using generalized experience.

Also experience can be a bad thing. Many adults, because of excessive experience, get set in their ways are are closed minded and dismissive of new ideas and innovations. Also they struggle with new technology and ways of doing things. In an ever changing society with ever changing technology and norms, it is young people who are more qualified in many(though not all) areas than adults.

Plus many well experienced folks have no wisdom to speak of. People who end up making the same mistakes over and over again, or who get themselves into the same bad situation over and over again. Wisdom is certainly fed by experience, but it requires an open-mindedness that can assess those experiences with a bit of detachment to discern lessons from it. In many ways this advantage goes to youth, because they aren't set in their ways.

[Bereta_Eder]

u got to admit though , theres something inherently unappealing about asher's (or every asher's) geeky computerly image. i wouldnt want to have anything to do with him except solve my PC problems and for that I'd be thankful. then speak for more than half an hour could be a drag, unless of course personality and wisdom makes up for the cimputer geekness.

OTOH u got molly bloom or boris or agathon with which u could sit down and talk a lot about things that are interesting per se (such are "cultural" things)



reallky "positive" science people (computer physics science) get them to solve your problem, avoid inviting them to dinners (except as said if for wisdom and personality), literary types, open your doors, they'll make it worth your time (except of course if irritating personality).


but such is the world.
each on his domain

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Asher

wrinkled face:

Silly simpletons.

Amazing what people will do to pretend to be younger, and then forget that they tried to do it due to the memory lapse from old age.

Are you new here?

Are you incapable of writing a post without recourse to unimaginative insults? Obviously not.

I've never pretended to be younger- not something that ever interested me. The error is nothing to do with the information I put into my profile- but thanks for checking it out. Clearly you missed the bit about Melbourne and Australia when you called me 'a whiny *** in China'.

To read, to understand.

[Asher]

Originally posted by paiktis22
u got to admit though , theres something inherently unappealing about asher's (or every asher's) geeky computerly image. i wouldnt want to have anything to do with him except solve my PC problems and for that I'd be thankful. then speak for more than half an hour could be a drag, unless of course personality and wisdom makes up for the cimputer geekness.

OTOH u got molly bloom or boris or agathon with which u could sit down and talk a lot about things that are interesting per se (such are "cultural" things)

Last time I help you with computer troubles.

My geeky computerly image doesn't exist, but my reputation does. If you meet me in real life, about the last thing you'd expect from me would be being a gay computer geek. I'm surprisingly normal and cordial in person, perhaps even a bit diarming. Ask Zylka or November Adam (though I think he's AWOL now). I can also carry on regular, interesting conversation with people. Mind you, it won't be about such "cultured" things like my interpretation about the Canterbury Tales...

As for sit down and talking with molly or Agathon, you'd have to stab with with a salty spoon in the eye before I'd consider anything of the sort. I find them both so, so, so, so uselessly boring that it would kill me.

I would love to have a sit down and talk with Boris, because while being stereotypically "cultured", he's also a genuinely bright and interesting guy.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by paiktis22
or boris or agathon

I don't know if I like being grouped with Agathon. He is definitely an elitist snob, and we've had the arguments to prove it. He's quite proud of it, actually.

I love opera and classical. I listen to it almost exclusively. But I have never, ever seriously derided people for their musical tastes. Music is one of mankind's most awesome achievements, IMO, and I take heart when someone finds enjoyment through any musical expression. It's probably the closest thing mankind will have with a common language. I don't know if people experience the same kind of sheer ecstacy and fulfillment I do with classical music, but I hope they do. I'd feel really sorry for anyone who hasn't had a piece of music evoke the strongest of emotions in them, whether it be tears, joy, laughter, love, etc.

[Asher]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Are you incapable of writing a post without recourse to unimaginative insults? Obviously not.

Hello? This coming from the guy who for about 50 posts consecutively used variations of "Danny Bonaduce" as an insult towards me, when I look nothing like the dude?

My "insults" are unimaginative, because when I start getting creative, I get banned. Plus, they're not insults, they're observations.

Clearly you missed the bit about Melbourne and Australia when you called me 'a whiny *** in China'.

When you're high, China and Australia look astonishingly similar.