Star TreK Enterprise

[OzzyKP]

Oh and I can't forget the Huts, or Wookies.

Star Wars rules all.

[FlameFlash]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs

Of Tom Paris'es:
What, different and unrelated people can't resemble one another? Well, there goes the celebrity impersonators industry...

Of Tuvok:
Vulcans live a looong time. I doubt Tuvok was meant to be that old. Actually, I believe one VOY episode revealed his age (not the same episode that Janeway suprised him with a cupcake), and it wasn't nearly old enough to place him anywhere near TMP-era vessels. Read "Of Tom Paris'es"

A valid point. Personally I like the fact that they're giving them extra chances to act and actually have decent roles but it was a consistency issue I felt needed mention.

Of Dyson-spheres:
Obviously, they are a plot-recycle, but shouldn't be mistaken for the "real thing." The Delphic expanse spheres were destroyed, every last one of them we assume, in the season finale of ENT. As for the races, they're probably just minor members of the Federation. One theory: The Xindi don't join the Federation until after TNG/DS9/Voy. If you tried to exterminate Humanity, would Earth be over it in less than 300 years? Until then, the Xindi are busy coming to terms with the Builders being not the benevolent aliens who saved their divided world but a bunch of self-serving fuktards who would have eventually wiped them and all other native life from the galaxy.

Good. Didn't watch the last episode so I didn't know. Also good reasoning on them not being around later.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by FlameFlash


Ummm... because one of the main plot hooks in TOS was the war with the Klingons!? Just glad they haven't run into Romulans in Enterprise... that'd really kill their reliability since in the TOS it surprised the heck out of Spock to see them...

They had run into them in Enterprise

And reusing an actor is a plot hole... I mean, come on! I was watching TNG the other day and Tom Paris is at the academy with Wesley... then Voyager comes on... oh that must have been what happened to him when he was kicked out... wait... he had a different name. And what happened to Tuvok's ears!? He was human in Generations!

You are bad! Paris is not at the academz, he acts a different character IMHO, like Tuvok-actor acts a terrorist in Star Trek TNG. Nobody watched the movie Undiscovered Country? When on trial, Kirk is defended by a Klingon who is being acted by Michael Dorn (Worf!), and moreover his character is named: Worf: I believe they did that intentionally.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Well having Vorlons and Shadows gives B5 two more than Star Trek.

It does not. Species 8472 certainly aren`t humanoid. Founders are not nearly humanoid. They are references to quadripedal species (ins eries and in books). Also there are other kinds of lifeforms:- crystaline entities, gaseous lifeforms, living minerals etc. Star Trek has more diverse universe than B5 as far as I know.

[FlameFlash]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
about enterprise....all those problems you are talking about...you are almost all wrong...because NX-01 was a earth ship all the other series the FEDERATION was founded....so all those first contact wronges and so...are actually right

Nice DBTS... I'll retract.

[FlameFlash]

Originally posted by obstructor

I agree, and you forgot that alien races in Star Trek can mate and produce offspring with each other. However, this was explained later in the series.

I loved how they explained that too. Some other Uberrace seeding life on planets... nice.

[Illuminatus]

They still haven`t made up an explanation about "different" appearance of Klingons. Does anyone remember Tribbles and tribulations episode in DS9? When Worf is asked what happened to Klingons(their foreheads) he answers: We do not talk about it with outsiders. Funny line, but...

[Wiglaf]

Flameflasher, you have capitulated on all your timeline, acting, etc complaints, all that remains is the way the show looks modern. Well, if that's your only complaint, I suppose you buy Martha Stewart's cookbooks because of the babe on the cover and not because you want to do some cooking.

For those of us who want to do some cooking, and who don't moan about timeline inconsistences that don't really exist, we can relax and watch a decent sci-fi show that both allows us to cook (o.k. story) and check out the babe on cover (sets effects and blalock need I say more).

Edit: also amusing is that you seem to eat up all these other show's crap about breeding and species and so forth, but you can't swallow a modern set

Enterprise
People who don't like enterprise because of drab rumors of non existant , non important, timeline inconsistencies

[Illuminatus]

Wiglaf

[Wiglaf]

Your right. I insulted this cult that worships grown men in pajamas shooting torpedoes at aliens WHO OMG HAVE RIDGES IN THEIR FOREHEAD IN ONE SHOW BUT NOT ANOTHER!!! Red alert. Set phasers to looser

Whateva

[Illuminatus]

Who worships them? You are a loser if you watch Enterprise for Blalock. Rather watch Baywatch then. It has effects too (you think that Blalock and effects are the only thing needed for a good sci-fi -wrong).

[Wiglaf]

There you go again, saying things that make no sense. There is more to the show than Blalock. There are arcs, and morals, etc. You people cannot swallow that the amount of crap in Enterprise is actually LESS than the amount of crap you've been swallowing with the previous series. I merely point out that Flamerflash has capitulated on ALL his complaints but still doesn't like the show. Oh well.

Run that thing about "humanoid species being spread around the galaxy" by me one more time.

[Illuminatus]

You said yourself that Blalock is one of the reasons you watch the series. The only problem with Enterprise series is not that it is not good, but the fact it is trying to make itself part of the TOS and TNG universe, while changing almsot entire history. If it weren`t for that, Enterprise would be a good show (despite time travel arcs).

[Verto]

Originally posted by obstructor
They still haven`t made up an explanation about "different" appearance of Klingons. Does anyone remember Tribbles and tribulations episode in DS9? When Worf is asked what happened to Klingons(their foreheads) he answers: We do not talk about it with outsiders. Funny line, but...

How can they explain it?

"Actually, this is just a television show and the makeup team decided to do something different, now that we had some money to play with."

[Illuminatus]

Mutagenic weapons? Parallel universes? Viral infection? Sub-klingon race? A cycle in development of an average Klingon? Even as I like your explanation (that is sadly true ).