some people just don't get it...

[Theben]

Not really, since both present a clear and present danger.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Theben
Not really, since both present a clear and present danger.

Unless you've had that British Army self-defense course where you learn to defend yourself from fruit.

This thread went from zero to boring in about two posts.

[Theben]

To paraphrase Kuciwalker, "You don't have to look at it."

[debeest]

In a possible first, I completely agree with Skywalker. I'm completely pro-choice. But the shirt is simply a statement of opinion, and completely protected by our revered freedom of expression. She should just ignore it, or dispute the message, but there's no basis to argue that the girl doesn't have a perfect right to wear it.

[Rogan Josh]

Agathon

[Mercator]

Another thumbs up for Agathon.

[DanielXY]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


But he's warming up the prolife chicks.

(who are cuter anyways.)

Not a good idea...
better stick with the pro choice girls... less hassle afterwards if something goes wrong....

[Imran Siddiqui]

If someone walked up to you and swung a knife at you every day, only to stop a 1/2 inch from your neck, would you feel threatened? Espec if you didn't know whether or not he'd follow thru someday? Where's the harm?

mrmitchell is correct. A swastika says nothing except I hate X group. It doesn't mean the person is going to kill you for it anymore than someone wearing a Hammer and Sickle (which is just as odious a symbol as a swastika) means he will kill rich kids.

Swinging a knife at someone is assault, wearing a swastika is protected speech.

[The Mad Monk]

Don't worry, Kuciniwalker -- some of us get it.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Qilue
I saw a movie a few days ago (The Majestic) and this passage from it seems to fit here.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Hehehe.

Yea that was a good.... movie quote.... hehe.

[chequita guevara]

Perhaps, Kuncinich, instead of using the dialectic method to criticize her, you should have said you understand her point of view, but we have to respect the right of free speech even of those we dispise, or free speech doesn't exist, and anyone could take our own rights away.

[Last Conformist]

Aggie:

No sensible person agrees that racism is morally justifiable

Do I spot a True Scotsman?

[alva]

So if someone started wearing a swastika armband, that would be peachy with you?

Although I wouldn't like it, my answer would still be yes.

[Capt Dizle]

Originally posted by MrFun
Oh yeah, I forgot -- I also support the right of the willingly ignorant to express their opinions about sexual orientation and gay issues as well.

Thanks, I personally appreciate that.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Theben
Sorry, I'm with Aggie on this one, with the possible exception that most hate speech should be condemned rather than banned, unless it causes harm to a person or group. Then again, that could be what he is saying, and I'm reading too much of what the other side is putting in his posts.

You still don't have to look at it. Plus, how does it hurt you, to see the swastika? Can you demonstrate any actual harm?

If someone walked up to you and swung a knife at you every day, only to stop a 1/2 inch from your neck, would you feel threatened? Espec if you didn't know whether or not he'd follow thru someday? Where's the harm?

Swinging a knife at my face isn't expression.