BREAKING NEWS: nerve gas found in road side bomb in Iraq

[MrFun]

Wouldn't World War II be considered recent history?


If so . . . . . . .

[Edan]

Originally posted by MrFun
Wouldn't World War II be considered recent history?

I'm guessing not when you're talking "recent" in terms of the timeline of WMDs..

[Whoha]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040517/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_sarin_4

It was rigged as an IED, looks like the Insurgents found the wmd for us, what a bunch of nice guys.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Japher
This isn't about the US' accounting methods... It's about the US' claim that Iraq had WMD.

You usually do better than this, Japher. However, you totally ignore the counterarguments and flies blindly.

The US's assertion that Iraq had BCN weapons was based on the fact that there were weapons they could not account for. Ultimately, this is about accounting methods. Contrasting Iraq with the US merely highlights the difficulty. If a powerful and advanced nation such as the US could not create a flawless system to account for all its BCN weapons, what hope would Iraq have for that?

Originally posted by Japher
The point is, a WMD was found in Iraq, why is that so hard to believe?

Correction: a shell of unknown origin suspected to contain a nerve agent was found in Iraq.

And?

Originally posted by Japher
And, why are you defending him, Che?

Perhaps to stop the warmongers from perpetuating the same old refuted lie again?

Originally posted by Japher
Hell, I bet we could find a whole cache of weapons over there that they weren't suppose to have and you would somehow find a way to dismiss the findings.

Another falllacy.

[SlowwHand]

It's their accounting, UR, not ours. I'll stop at that and not bother correcting you entirely.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Edan


I'm guessing not when you're talking "recent" in terms of the timeline of WMDs..

why??


Ask Japan if nuclear weapons do not count as weapons of mass destruction.

[General Ludd]

I wouldn't consider WW2 recent history. But I would consider vietnam and agent orange recent history. And if you include things like napalm and cluster bombs, there's the gulf wars and afgahnistan.

Of course, then we get into the deffinition of WMD. If you think it's 'unconventional' weapons, then surely napalm fits. If you think it's 'uncontrolable' weapons that do mass undirected damage, then surely cluster bombs with their huge amount of damage and unexploded bombs left over for civilians to find would fit. (what is the detonation rate for the bomblets - 40%? 60%?)

[Japher]

You usually do better than this, Japher. However, you totally ignore the counterarguments and flies blindly.

What Che did was the same as answering a question with a question. Turning the table like that proves nothing to the contrary. You must see the falicy in such an argument. You cannot justify Iraq poor ability to account for their weapons on the US' inability to do the same thing.

This would be like conficting a man of another man's crimes only because they are of the same {fill in the blank}...

Perhaps to stop the warmongers from perpetuating the same old refuted lie again?

Seriously doubt that, Che lives for perpetuating lies, he's communist after all...

Another falllacy.

A hypothetical can't be a fallacy.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
It's their accounting, UR, not ours. I'll stop at that and not bother correcting you entirely.

You should read my entire post instead of just a word or two.

[Japher]

You should read my entire post instead of just a word or two

I missed the part where Saddam threw out the weapon inspectors and refused to let them back in, and then, when he did (a good decade later), did his best to deceive them... of what? That's a good question.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Japher


I missed the part where Saddam threw out the weapon inspectors and refused to let them back in, and then, when he did (a good decade later), did his best to deceive them... of what? That's a good question.

five years = decade? :confused

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Japher
This would be like conficting a man of another man's crimes only because they are of the same {fill in the blank}...

This analogy doesn't hold. A better one is, if a large corporatiion could not account for all its inventory, what is the hope for a corner store for achieving this goal?

Originally posted by Japher
A hypothetical can't be a fallacy.

Sure it can be. It can be a slippery slope, for starters.

[Edan]

Originally posted by MrFun



why??

Cause WMDs are only about ~90+ years old, give or take. ~60 years ago isn't recent in that context.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
But if this is all they had, this war was a bigger mistake than I thought.

I'm sorry but whatever gave you the idea I was talking about Sadam?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
A better one is, if a large corporatiion could not account for all its inventory, what is the hope for a corner store for achieving this goal?

Actually the correct question to ask is, who's fault is it you forgot to keep your paperwork when the IRS decides to audit you?