BREAKING NEWS: nerve gas found in road side bomb in Iraq

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Allow me to quote one of my betters: As a weapon, it [Agent Orange] would be useless, since anyone sprayed with it (including my brother) was perfectly capable of shooting at you for days, weeks, months and years. In fact, many people with significant AO exposure will die of old age with no verifiable direct effects from AO.

No, it doesn't make a good conventional weapon, because it isn't. But when you're really sprayed with it and you're eating, drinking and breathing the stuff it isn't something to shrug off. It may not kill you instantly, but bio/chemical weapons often don't. Niether was it ineffective at destroying and poisoning the land - afterall, it's still killing people.

[Drake Tungsten]

I can't believe there are still dip-****s on this board who seriously refer to Agent Orange as a "weapon". I thought we had dealt with that stupidity already...

[MrFun]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Allow me to quote one of my betters: As a weapon, it [Agent Orange] would be useless, since anyone sprayed with it (including my brother) was perfectly capable of shooting at you for days, weeks, months and years. In fact, many people with significant AO exposure will die of old age with no verifiable direct effects from AO.

That does not completely negate the fact that toxic chemicals harm people.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by General Ludd
As was Agent Orange.

Um, no, didn't we just go over this? Agent Orange was created with the intent to kill plants. Not people. Despite what environmentalists may have told you, plants are NOT people too. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Agent Orange has no peaceful application.

You mean besides removing foliage, of course.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Gibsie
You mean it was a Weapon deployed in order to cause Mass Destruction? I wonder if Kucinich knows what that WMD word he keeps using stands for...

As I've pointed out several times, the "weapon" part pretty much precludes Agent Orange from being WMD.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Gibsie
If people take the actively dangerous aspect of a mobile phone and apply it over a wide area in order to cause death and/ or destruction, it certainly is. Organisms like Bacillus anthracis do not exist as weapons to kill people, but that sure as hell doesn't mean they can't be used as weapons, does it?

And yet this wasn't the point of Agent Orange - it wasn't spread over a wide area in order to cause death and/or destruction (of people).

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Kucinich


You mean besides removing foliage, of course.

Oh yes, I forgot that it's a 'defoliant'. Such a nice, dainty, term they use describe it, isn't it? It makes it sound so.... harmless.

it wasn't spread over a wide area in order to cause death and/or destruction (of people).

You just keep on believing that.


I guess the military designed, tested, and deployed it against their enemies for a laugh. When practical jokes go awry...

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by Kucinich
And yet this wasn't the point of Agent Orange - it wasn't spread over a wide area in order to cause death and/or destruction (of people).

I think the "people" part is a misnomer introduced into the discussion. These are WMD's, not Weapons of Mass Homicide or Weapons of Mass Murder or even Weapons of Mass Killing.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Saddam Hussein was a thug, right? I've dealt with a few thugs in my time and I can state with reasonable certainty that thugs are not big on documentation. If they were theu would have gone into corporate accountaincy.

I thought they would become CEO's and CFO's

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Allow me to quote one of my betters: As a weapon, it [Agent Orange] would be useless, since anyone sprayed with it (including my brother) was perfectly capable of shooting at you for days, weeks, months and years. In fact, many people with significant AO exposure will die of old age with no verifiable direct effects from AO.

Have some arsenic.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Gibsie
I think the "people" part is a misnomer introduced into the discussion. These are WMD's, not Weapons of Mass Homicide or Weapons of Mass Murder or even Weapons of Mass Killing.

Excellent point.

[Drake Tungsten]

I guess the military designed, tested, and deployed it against their enemies for a laugh.

No, they designed, tested and deployed it in order to kill plants. The jungles of South Vietnam, in this case. That's what defoliants are made to do, kill plants...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Have some arsenic.

Which has anything at all to do with my post in what way?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

I guess the military designed, tested, and deployed it against their enemies for a laugh.

No, they designed, tested and deployed it in order to kill plants. The jungles of South Vietnam, in this case. That's what defoliants are made to do, kill plants...

And why did they want to do that... for a laugh? Nevermind that they knew it did more then just 'kill plants'.


My question from before was never answered - are bombs dropped on railways and bridges not weapons?