Why do people not like Muslims?

[Thorn]

Not to sound bigoted, but....

A Jew defending Muslims, I think Hell has finally frozen over...

My best friend is Jewish, she hates muslims, and she joined the military so she could fight them.

[Whaleboy]

The Arab media (or Muslim media in general) never admits that its culture and society need reforms . Instead they blame incessantly on "Crusader-Israeli" conspiracies.

And the West blames terrorists .

The people don't search for solutions to overcome their current weakness, instead they look for maniac means (suicide bombings, terrorism) to blackmail the rest of the world into giving what they want. A bunch of Islamic fools just attacked Thailand, a very peaceful Buddhist nation with no imperial history.

You honestly think that the people as a whole are terrorists?

A bunch of Islamic fools just attacked Thailand, a very peaceful Buddhist nation with no imperial history.

A bunch of terrorists. They are as human as they are Muslim in that regard.

There are Arabs and other Muslims who have recognized the problem, but their voice is completely drowned out by the "Jihads", "Fatwas", and other similar BS streaming out of the Wahhabist camps. Every Muslim I know of are still trying to find all the excuses for suicide bombers, another sign that these people don't get it.

Then you need to send feelers beyond the OTF

The only reason that prevents B-52s from carpet bombing their cities is the general benevolence of the Western society. But that benevolence is wearing thinner and thinner with every attack. So far Europe except Spain has been spared such attacks, but I believe it's only a matter of time. The fools still haven't realized how dangerous their situation is. If the Euros are sufficiently pissed off by their acts, I don't see anything that can prevent the rest of the world to gang up on them. Then there wouldn't be much left of their culture or people. How humiliating would it be if Israelis are raising the David Star flag on top of Mecca?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Thorn
We aren't talking about some liberal young kiddies a liberal hub, we are talking about the majority.

You were just talking about ALL of them.

I've been to a muslim country, and I've seen how they looked at me, and treated me, you have no idea the hate...

I've been to a Muslim country too, and my tourist self was an integrated part of the landscape. I recieved no strange looks. Sure, tourists are common where I went, but you'd expect this fundie bunch to be much worse than they were (and had I been a girl, I'd have been frequently invited to wild nights, such is Tunisia )

[Whaleboy]

A Jew defending Muslims, I think Hell has finally frozen over...

I'm a special chap

My best friend is Jewish, she hates muslims, and she joined the military so she could fight them.

I can assure you that your friend is not representative of the Jewish community.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Whaleboy

And the West blames terrorists .

So?

You honestly think that the people as a whole are terrorists?

Geez, I just can't understand why you liberals are trying to find every excuse for some loonies. Do you know that majority of the people in Muslim countries think suicide bombings are justified? This attitude alone makes me despise them all.

A bunch of terrorists. They are as human as they are Muslim in that regard.

Exactly, there are Muslims, and Muslims are murdering and destroying in every corner of this planet, from North America to Europe to Russia, from South America to Africa to Southeast Asia.

They are the troublemakers of the world. If they don't change their behaviors, then the world will make sure they stop.

[Thorn]

I can assure you that your friend is not representative of the Jewish community.

*cough*

Israel

*cough*

[Ramo]

Some of the most tolerant people that I know are Muslims.

I had some rabidly anti-clericalist (anti-Islamic in particular) leanings before 9/11 (and I got into endless debates with the fundies in this very forum over atheism, evolution, etc. ). Ironically, the rise of Islamophobia has given me some important perspective, and thus has done much to change my mind.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lord Merciless
They are the troublemakers of the world. If they don't change their behaviors, then the world will make sure they stop.

Don't be so harsh toward the Americans...

[Thorn]

Only muslims I know where thrown out of their country almost murdered because they were too liberal and educated for their countries.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Ramo
Ironically, the rise of Islamophobia has given me some important perspective, and thus has done much to change my mind.

That's only the beginning. Islamophobia will get much much worse if the terrorists keep murdering people. Unfortunately, most Muslims don't realize what danger these terrorists will bring to their culture and lives.

[Whaleboy]

So?

So conservatives on both sides BS about the other!

Do you know that majority of the people in Muslim countries think suicide bombings are justified? This attitude alone makes me despise them all.

If you were in their situation, you'd probably do exactly the same! Ironically, I wouldn't because I'm a pacifist . Fundamentally though, its a human response that we can logically predict. The issue of justification is irrelevant. To every cause there is a consequence and this is no different: a consequence. Suicide bombings aren't some evil demon that randomly dropped out of the sky.

Exactly, there are Muslims, and Muslims are murdering and destroying in every corner of this planet, from North America to Europe to Russia, from South America to Africa to Southeast Asia.

Wrong, they are humans doing the same, but do we call them human terrorists? Would you call me a pacifist terrorist if I exploded myself in the name of world peace? That is (on two levels) what is going on here, yet we persist in scapegoating Muslims.

They are the troublemakers of the world. If they don't change their behaviors, then the world will make sure they stop.

I wont waste my words telling you that is ridiculous, instead I would ask you what you propose?

Geez, I just can't understand why you liberals are trying to find every excuse for some loonies.

As a Jew, several members of my family were killed during the holocaust. It is my opinion that I should do my best to curb the kind of thinking that caused it, for it is that aspect of human nature that remains the same for people like Lord Merciless and Thorn, and the German people of the 1930's and 40's. I am still somewhat perplexed as to why the Jews did not react as some Muslims react today (explained somewhat by specific sociological conditions), history would certainly not have judged them unkindly if they did. As for the Muslims, the jury is very much still out, though if the conservatives have their way, history will ironically judge the terrorists favourably .

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Don't be so harsh toward the Americans...

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Well, I'd like to see how the French flock to Le Pen after several blocks of Paris have been levelled by Muslim terrorists. Believe me, this day will happen.

[Whaleboy]

*cough*

Israel

*cough*

Ever been there? Ever spoken to Israelis? Even talked to them about their opinions on these matters?

Ramo:

That's only the beginning. Islamophobia will get much much worse if the terrorists keep murdering people. Unfortunately, most Muslims don't realize what danger these terrorists will bring to their culture and lives.

I don't doubt that the suffering wrought by the West in phony vengeance will do the world great harm, but I blame the perpetrators not the scapegoats.

[Whaleboy]

Well, I'd like to see how the French flock to Le Pen after several blocks of Paris have been levelled by Muslim terrorists. Believe me, this day will happen.

Do explain?

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
I don't doubt that the suffering wrought by the West in phony vengeance will do the world great harm, but I blame the perpetrators not the scapegoats.

Again the leftist brain-washing showed its affect on you: " please, please, beat me up, rough me up, since it's all my fault!"