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  • And technically it's not emotive. If we take the image as read, it was not using emotion as a premise, since the statement of the holocaust is a refuting example. The emotions that are attached to that "piggyback" on the premise, but are irrelevant to the argument, thus it is not an emotive argument.
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    • Murder is a legal term defined by the state. Hence you're the ones being pwnd by Ziggy.
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      • Wrong, murder is a specific philosophical concept. Legal interpretations of that are irrelevant, I stick to the proper definitions.
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        • Still pwnd.

          No. It's a legal term. There's a reason you never see armies tried for mass murder once they leave the battlefield.
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          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • Yes, but you do see the leaders of those soldiers being tried for war crimes. If a state spy, an assassin, kills someone in a different nation, it is still murder, even though it is state sponsored. It depends which state is sponsoring it. If the US execute a US citizen on US soil, that's not legally murder. If the US execute a UK citizen on UK soil, whether by means of covert ops or direct justice, if it is not agreed by the UK government, it is murder.
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            • Murder isn't a war crime...
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              • No. It's a legal term. There's a reason you never see armies tried for mass murder once they leave the battlefield.
                Murder can be defined as the killing of one by another against the formerly living's will. That begs the question of justifiable murder, where we can then debate war, war crimes, utilitarian actions and whatnot, but by definition it is still murder.

                Sorry MtG didn't realise it was in the rules. To make that post make sense, I posted an image of victims of the Holocaust.
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                • Originally posted by Whaleboy
                  Murder can be defined as the killing of one by another against the formerly living's will.
                  It can be defined as such. But it isn't.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • Why doesn't it suprise me that we haven't heard of anything about Afghanistan from i.e. CNN for a number of months, but that changes when football player dies there.

                    Anyways, it's sad that he died, but it'd be great if a just fraction of the thought going towards him went to many others.
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                    • Because you haven't been looking.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • No, I've watched a good deal of CNN (far too much, really). There has been very little on Afghanistan.
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                        • There's your problem. I've seen a decent number of wire reports from the area in Newspapers.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • Yes. CNN isn't a newspaper. There's a reason why I mentioned it instead of, say, the NYT.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                            • You made it seem like you were talking about American media not just CNN. At least that's the impression I get with the "i.e. CNN."
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • Tillman lived the American Dream and then defended it with his life. What more can any American aspire to? No need to compare him to the many others that have served and sacrifice. It is sufficient to honor him and if we honor Tillman in a more public way than we do others, it is appropriate because he was a more public man. If we take him to be a symbol for the others, then as we honor him, we honor them. And it is the least we can do.

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