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  • The US preparing for a draft.

    We remember that Bush activited the draft boards many months ago for possible deployment.... as much as I'd like to agree with Ming that a draft would be political suicide, these people running this country are psychotic and will probably do it anyways. Besides once a draft is started, how would a president be viewed pulling out of it....DANGER DANGER DANGER!


    Senator says US may need compulsory service to boost Iraq force
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    WASHINGTON (AFP) - A senior Republican lawmaker said that deteriorating security in Iraq (news - web sites) may force the United States to reintroduce the military draft.



    "There's not an American ... that doesn't understand what we are engaged in today and what the prospects are for the future," Senator Chuck Hagel told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on post-occupation Iraq.


    "Why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."


    The Nebraska Republican added that a draft, which was ended in the early 1970s, would spread the burden of military service in Iraq more equitably among various social strata.


    "Those who are serving today and dying today are the middle class and lower middle class," he observed.


    The call to consider a imposing a draft comes just days after the Pentagon (news - web sites) moved to extend the missions of some 20,000 of the 135,000 US troops in Iraq.


    Some critics of the US-led occupation complain that military planners used too few troops to subdue Iraq, and insist that more military muscle will be needed to restore order.


    The US-led military coalition was put under further strain by the announcement this week by coalition members Spain and Honduras that they would withdraw their military contingents from Iraq.


    Meanwhile, witnesses at the hearing, including academics and former US officials, expressed concern about ongoing flareups of violence in Iraq this month -- the bloodiest yet for US troops.


    "I think it's clear that pressures in Iraq have reached the boiling point," said Samuel Berger, national security adviser during the Bill Clinton (news - web sites) administration, who called for an increase in troops there, and a "genuine, non-grudging effort to internationalize the enterprise in Iraq, both military and civilian."


    "We've got to be prepared to give up our hammerlock on decision making in exchange for genuine burden sharing."


    Richard Perle, a former White House adviser who currently serves as a fellow at a conservative think tank, advised against adding troops or extending the date of handover of Iraqi sovereignty beyond the currently-set June 30 date.


    "It is essential that we not delay the handover of sovereignty set for the end of June, even if there is continuing violence by those who know they have no place in a decent, democratic Iraq," he said.


    Perle also warned against entrusting the United Nations (news - web sites) with the post-occupation administration of Iraq, saying UN involvement should be kept at "an absolute minimum."


    "A large UN contingent in Iraq ... would do more harm than good," Perle said.


    "It would discourage the assumption of sovereignty by Iraqis themselves. It would drain resources urgently needed for the development of Iraq's economy," Perle said.


    A senior Democrat meanwhile, lashed out at the White House for failing to send a top administration official to appear before the panel.


    "I think it is outrageous that the administration has not provided every witness we've asked for," said Senator Joseph Biden, the highest-ranking Democrat on the committee.

    "The fact that they are not prepared to send a witness means that they are either totally incompetent and they don't have anything to tell us ... or they're refusing to allow us to fulfill our constitutional responsibility" of congressional oversight, Biden said.

    The committee's Republican chairman, Richard Lugar, also slammed the White House for "inadequate planning and communication related to Iraq."
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    • #3
      Goody I hope they do reinstate the draft.
      Future Marine

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      • #4
        Although I could support a draft if it was just aimed at borderline psychotic homosexuals living in North Carolina.
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        • #5
          I support a draft-they can start with the rolls of the republican party, since of course, all democrats are defeatist, so you don;t want them serving.
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          • #6
            Re: The US preparing for a draft.

            Originally posted by Thorn
            We remember that Bush activited the draft boards many months ago for possible deployment.... as much as I'd like to agree with Ming that a draft would be political suicide, these people running this country are psychotic and will probably do it anyways. Besides once a draft is started, how would a president be viewed pulling out of it....DANGER DANGER DANGER!

            Uh, the draft boards have been around for a long, long time. Like a few decades...

            The only thing done under Bush was a program that was dropped to try to get people to fill all the thousands of empty positions on the existing draft boards, but nobody bothered because it doesn't pay and everyone but you knows it's a waste of time. Nice try.
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            • #7
              It'll happen after the election if Bush wins...
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              • #8
                You honestly think Bush would institute a draft in an election year?!

                Besides the Congress repealed the draft so the Congress, not the President, would have to reinstitute the draft.
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                • #9
                  If Congress repealed the draft, what's Selective Service?
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                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    Plus, IIRC, Hagel's been calling for draft reinstatement pretty much since the beginning of the campaign in Afghanistan.
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                    • #11
                      Registration for the draft, so that if Congress ever decides to have it, we'll have the names and addresses of all the fresh young meat like you to make into future FNG's.
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                      • #12
                        Only Bubbas should be drafted.
                        Only feebs vote.

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                        • #13
                          "Why shouldn't we ask all of our citizens to bear some responsibility and pay some price?" Hagel said, arguing that restoring compulsory military service would force "our citizens to understand the intensity and depth of challenges we face."
                          Doesn't this line look like something out of Nation States?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            If Congress repealed the draft, what's Selective Service?
                            Congress repealed the draft thus no one is now drafted, however, they retained the apparatus of the selective service so it could be used in the event war ever broke out in the future.
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                            • #15
                              This kind of talk will stay in Nebraska, especially if JFK has his way (and we all know he will).

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