Israel Kills Rantisi, New Hamas Leader.

[Sirotnikov]

I judge the outcome.

So you would let a failed assassin go free, and jail a person who did something by accident?

Read Kant about the intent thing.


Azazel - shut up. Btw, I called you sometime last week and you didn't answer. What's new?

[Ted Striker]

That's a good point Tnikov

[Az]

Azazel - shut up.

Assshole! I am sending suicide bombers to your house!

Btw, I called you sometime last week and you didn't answer. What's new?

I am getting my ass kicked in school. I think I am calling in sick tomorrow. Or the college equivalent of it, whatever it is.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Azazel
Yeah, that's it, noone wants to take over Gaza.

NO, Hamas has no problem taking over Gaza. BUt any moderate Palestinian would have to be nuts to take over Gaza in its current situation, specially if Israel will maintain control of all access.
Sharon keeps these assasinations going to 'prove' to Likudniks that Hamas will be too weak to take control. Perhaps, but then, why should Hamas be the only organization of radical Palestinians in existance? New groups are free to sprout up.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

I judge the outcome.

So you would let a failed assassin go free, and jail a person who did something by accident?

I should have written "I am judging..."

But as to your question (even though it may lead to a threadjack), I think the actual outcome is to be weighted when judging. It is obvious to me a failed assassin can't get a full penalty for what he evenetually didn't do, and an accidental killer should suffer at least some consequences of that kill.

But again, I'm armchair-generaling behind my computer, in the comfort and saftey of my midle-class French home. If I lost my gf in a "colateral damage", I would be much, much less patient toward the killers, accidental or not.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Azazel

Azazel - shut up.

Assshole! I am sending suicide bombers to your house!

Btw, I called you sometime last week and you didn't answer. What's new?

I am getting my ass kicked in school. I think I am calling in sick tomorrow. Or the college equivalent of it, whatever it is.

Don't know about Israel, but in America it's called "sleeping in".

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by GePap


NO, I don;t. BUt of course, I am not the one trying to implement a half plan on the ground. Israel can't claim to have left Gaza and still control access. Of course, whomever was going to gain political control of Gaza should take those over-too bad Sharon didn;t say anything about that part....

Arik at news conference: We are of course leaving control of Gaza to Mohammed Dahlan, that GOOD FRIEND of Israel. Once we are sure he is in control, per our plans, we wil turn control over the Rafah crossing to him, and gradually control over the sea port, retaining control over the air space for till a later date .......


Like Sharon is actually going to say the above in PUBLIC???? That would be good for Dahlan??? Dont think so.

[lord of the mark]

Why they killed Rantissi and Yassin now.

What everyone is forgetting is that Hamas sent in terrorists to blow up a chemical facility in Ashdod a few weeks ago. Had it succeeded, wed be talking thousands of dead Israelis. As far as Israel is concerned Hamas has already taken the gloves off, and is doing everything they can anyway. Israel wont tolerate this, and will do whatever is necessary to destroy Hamas.

[lord of the mark]

I for one am glad to hear the Rantissi will soon be exchanging felicitations with George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, James Madison, James Monroe, George Mason, Edmund Randolph, Henry Lee, et al.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
I for one am glad to hear the Rantissi will soon be exchanging felicitations with George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, James Madison, James Monroe, George Mason, Edmund Randolph, Henry Lee, et al.

I doubt it. Rantissi is most likely in the really hot place, if you know what I mean.

[Tattila the Hun]

BTW, doesn't his son count as an innocent bystander? If he was still a kid, atleast.

[Az]

NO, Hamas has no problem taking over Gaza.

Bzzzt. wrong. Hamas can't take over Gaza. Hamas is outnumbered by the Fatah, and PA ( which would 'miraculously' join forces, if hamas attempts this )

BUt any moderate Palestinian would have to be nuts to take over Gaza in its current situation, specially if Israel will maintain control of all access.

Why's that? And of course, as I already said, the underlying assumption is wrong.

Sharon keeps these assasinations going to 'prove' to Likudniks that Hamas will be too weak to take control. Perhaps, but then, why should Hamas be the only organization of radical Palestinians in existance? New groups are free to sprout up.

These new groups will only make it easier for Israel:
- they'll lack experience of organization, completely.
- they won't have the manufacturing facilities, or experience.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by The diplomat


I doubt it. Rantissi is most likely in the really hot place, if you know what I mean.

He wasnt rewarded with 72 Virginians???

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by lord of the mark



He wasnt rewarded with 72 Virginians???

No, and he wasn't rewarded with virgins either.

[Sirotnikov]

I suspect lotm was joking

Originally posted by Annila the Hut
BTW, doesn't his son count as an innocent bystander? If he was still a kid, atleast.

Apparently it wasn't his son after all. It's still not completely clear though.