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  • I pray Bush wins re-election because if Kerry wins, we are all screwed.
    'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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    • Questions for diplomant:

      1. Has George W. Bush ever screwed up?

      2. Under what circumstances is it okay to point this out?

      3. Should he be accountable for his actions?

      4. Why do the answers to questions 1 thru 3 not apply to Democrat presidents?
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      • Originally posted by The diplomat


        What is ridiculous is that some people are assuming that Bush and Cheney are appearing together for some inapropriate alterior motive, so that they can "get their stories straight". There is nothing wrong with the President and the Vice President testifying together.
        Yes there is. Becuase they invariably influence the answers the other gives. When you are making an investigation you want to get a view into what people were thinking back then as much as possible. If someone is next you you asnwering questions in some way, invariably, what the other person said will color your narrative, and make it less likely to get to the truth as the person saw it at the time in question.

        What is trully ridiculous is endlessly making excuses for this administration, specially when the explination given by the amdin. are so piss poor, if only becuase they could not spin anymore without going into dishonesty.
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        • When Bush speeks, I hope someone is watching Cheney's lips.
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          • Diplomat: There's no reason FOR them to testify together. So far, the only reason that the White House has been able to come up with is that it is that it would be efficient for Bush and Cheney's schedule.

            Everyone else testified alone, under oath, even Bill Clinton (AFAIK).

            This administration thus far has had to be dragged screaming and clawing through this process, from founding the 9/11 commission to providing it with information to testifying. This is just another example of their unwillingness to be straightforward in finding out what happened leading up to, during, and after 9/11, which is sad given their promises to restore 'honor and integrity' to the White House following Clinton's numerous scandals.
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            • What is ridiculous is that some people are assuming that Bush and Cheney are appearing together for some inapropriate alterior motive, so that they can "get their stories straight". There is nothing wrong with the President and the Vice President testifying together.
              There's a huge problem with it, stemming largely from the administration's abysmal handling of the 9/11 commission in general. First they oppose its creation, then they deny it access to documents, then they deny access to Rice, and now Bush and Cheney appear together. Taken together, the combination of these stances, even if each is distinct and has its own rationale, looks like one huge CYA. If anyone thinks that Bush and Cheney can testify without a serious perception problem, they are kidding themselves. This administration, at the very least, is not considering the need to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
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              • Originally posted by The diplomat

                Aren't you afraid of the Secret Service coming after you?
                In Canada? Based on flippant remarks made on a flame laden website?

                No.
                Only feebs vote.

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                • You should be, but it would prolly take a bit more than that for the powers that be to notice you.
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                  • What if I told them my name is Abdul Al-Agathon?
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • Originally posted by The diplomat
                      Did it occur to this dumbass reporter that Cheney is apearing with Bush because he is VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE USA and thus would undoubtly have something to contribute to the hearing and it is more pratical to interview both the president and the vice-president together rather than have 2 separate hearings and ask the same questions twice?
                      I think the police should start interviewing suspects together. It's much more efficient time wise and they will be able to catch and correct each other' mistakes.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • Originally posted by The diplomat
                        I pray Bush wins re-election because if Kerry wins, we are all screwed.
                        If Kerry wins, we're screwed. If Bush wins, we're sodomized and deep-throated.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • So gay people should vote for Bush, che?
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • Originally posted by Agathon


                            What if I told them my name is Abdul Al-Agathon?
                            You might get a phone call asking if you want to report any suspicious activity at the local mosque...
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                            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              So gay people should vote for Bush, che?
                              Gay people like bush too.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • Only if they are women .
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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