The most depressing "conversation" I've had in a while

[MRT144]

cause youre the only one i know who does it

[Al B. Sure!]

really. a lot of people i know say 'what with.'

[MRT144]

must be a philly thing...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
2) How in the hell most gays "choose" to be gay even though there are people in this world such as hermaphrodites, people who have NEITHER sex organs, etc.

Oh Ted, when guys see you, how could they choose not to be gay?

But that tale reminds me of something my roommate witness his freshman year at Notre Dame. He was in a biology class, and the professor (a priest, naturally), started talking about evolutionary biology. One girl piped up that she didn't believe in evolution and her religion meant she couldn't accept it as true.

Now, disregarding the fact the Vatican had, a long time ago, accepted evolution as being fact, the priest stopped her and said, "You have a right to believe what you wish, but this is a biology class. Can you at least accept the possibility that evolution is fact?"

"No, not at all" was her response.

"Okay," replied the priest, "I'm not going to say you should leave the class, that's up to you--but I warn you know, if you can't at least accept the possibility of evolution, then you're going to have a very hard time in any biological sciences course."

The girl said she didn't see why, and the priest briefly tried to explain the whole notion of scientific method, which seemed to go straight over her head. He finally asked her what her intended major was.

"Pre-med," she said. The priest had to nearly choke back a guffaw.

"Well, no offense, but you're going to have to change your major, for the sake of your future patients. Nobody with your mindset about science has any business practicing medicine."

She was unwavering, but ended up dropping the course later on. Fortunately this type seems to be the exception, as most people, even Creationists, who go on to take college-level biology courses come to realize that dogmatic adherence to the literal teachings of their faith doesn't really mesh with the real world.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Dissident
that's what happens when you take a class about religion.

All Religions are crap. You have to expect fanatics.

Not true. I took a couple of religion courses in college, and they were devoid of fanatics. Of course, it was a fairly liberal college, and the professor was a gay Episcopalian minister.

[Last Conformist]

I guess there must be different breeds of Baptists, then. I'm pretty positive the ones back home reject the validity of infant baptism.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Christianity started out as a deviant sect of Judaism and the first two centuries AD saw it changed radically. A good class on the history of Christianity should be made manditory for all Christians. That said I've now read about 80% of the Koran and I must say it is a much more violent religion then the Christianity of the New Testiment (I.E. the part about Jesus and his Apostiles). The Koran starts out peaceful enough but as Mohommed becomes more powerful it gets more and more vitriole and much more punitive. I also noticed how the good Prophet started claiming God's rules frequently changed when it was in Mohommed's interest for them to do so; just check out how Mohommed rewrote the rules in order to allow him to marry his brother's ex-wife (which was previously forbiden) or how he wrote in special exemptions for himself to have an unlimited number of wives (other Moslems could only have four) etc...

The first books of the Koran were quite concilliatory towars Jews and Christians, but Mohammed made the naive mistake of believing that people of the other monotheistic religions would rally behind his bid for power in Mecca. Not only did the Jewish and Christian communiies not support him, but they helped those who opposed him, and he was evicted. I believe that the more rancorous parts of the Koran were written after his initial setbacks.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
I guess there must be different breeds of Baptists, then. I'm pretty positive the ones back home reject the validity of infant baptism.

I'm a little confused too. When I was growing up Baptists were not to be baptised until age 12, but today i know a number of baptists who were baptised at an early age. Of course, when I was growing up a kid couldn't participate in Holy Communion until being confirmed, which was fixed at a minimum age of 12. Today if your kid comes up to the Communion railing no matter hos young they offer him a slug of wine. I was deeply chagrined when they managed to slip past me and give my 5 year old a big gulp. He sloshed it down like he'd been drinking all his life. I had to force him to learn to dip his wafers for fear that the child welfare officers might give me a little visit.

[Boris Godunov]

Methodists baptise at infancy, IIRC. I know I was baptised when I was a baby. My parents aren't even religious, so I'm not sure why they did it. Probably because it was the "expected" thing to do.

[Dinner]

EK: Sometimes you are a pretenous ****. You are wrong on several of your points however I'm offended by the way you sneared at me and so I'm not going to continue this conversation.

[Evil Knevil]

Originally posted by Oerdin
EK: Sometimes you are a pretenous ****.

Surely 'pretentious'? Sorry, being a sp nazi is a low blow. I was pretty angry at your misconceptions. I still think you're almost completely and utterly wrong about the Koran.

You are wrong on several of your points however I'm offended by the way you sneared at me and so I'm not going to continue this conversation.

Well boo bloody hoo. Obviously you can't defend your arguements, so blaming me is a good cop-out.

[Argos65987]

Originally posted by Evil Knevil
Well boo bloody hoo. Obviously you can't defend your arguements, so blaming me is a good cop-out.

That's precious. You should not assume that just because he doesn't want to argue with you he can't defend his position.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Oh Ted, when guys see you, how could they choose not to be gay?

Awwww

They'd hit it.

[Drake Tungsten]

I've hit it many, many times... IN MY MIND!!!

HAhaHahAhaHA!!!

[Ted Striker]