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  • #31
    The Europeans would be better off launching on Russian rockets. Really.

    Even American rockets would be cheaper in many configurations, which means that Ariane V is way out of line.
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    • #32
      It's still useful. It can carry 4 satellites.
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      • #33
        BFD.
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        • #34
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          • #35
            The rocket the Russians wanted to use for their moon launch was about as big, the N1:

            Here is a site with a nice set of size comparisons:

            Launch Vehicles
            http://www.russianspaceweb.com/rockets_launchers.html
            History of Russian space launchers by Anatoly Zak.
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            • #36
              It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it. They didn't make it to the moon, did they?

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              • #37
                INterestingly, the Energia project hope to have a launcher with a 100,000 Kg payload.
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                • #38
                  It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it. They didn't make it to the moon, did they?
                  According to Dan, size matters.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kucinich
                    It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it. They didn't make it to the moon, did they?
                    It wasn;t rocket size and power that kept them out of the moon, if that is what you mean.
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                    • #40
                      Now that's a worthy competitor, GePap. Hats off to the Russkiis.

                      Unfortunately for them, it blew up four times in a row. Tough luck in the rocket biz. Saturn V = 100% success. N1 = 0% success.
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                      • #41
                        talking about putting sattilites in orbit then:
                        energia rockets are bigger and badder than the saturn V. and the sojoez rockets are the best rockets out there even the adriane 4 and 5 arent as good as the russian rockets. the delta rockest of the US are good...but the space shuttle suckes.
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                        • #42
                          My rocket brings all the boys to the yard,
                          and they're like... its better than yours,
                          damn right its better than yours,
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                          • #43
                            The Soyuz (the booster, not the capsule) is a pretty damn good rocket. 100% success in 150 launches demonstrates that fact.

                            But who would want to launch from Kazakhstan rather than Florida? No contest.

                            Also, Falcon V is slated to fly for a third the price per pound of the Soyuz. I've got my fingers crossed.
                            Last edited by DanS; April 6, 2004, 15:11.
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                            • #44
                              Ariane launches in Suriname. You can go for a little side-trip to the carnavals in Rio De Janeiro if you time the launch well.
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                              • #45
                                Space Elevator! less pollution, more payload, less expense!
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