Just curious... Does anything in this article cause anyone here to be outraged?

[MrFun]

Oh geez -- you're joking that you do not know who Cher is!!

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by MrFun
You want us to take you seriously, when you actually wonder whether or not liberals would sympathize with the Nazis during the Nuremberg trial????

Now I didn't say that did I?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Lincoln
Now Mr Fun joins the outraged left. I wonder who you all would have been outraged at during the Nuremburg trials? Just curious...

So please tell us what you meant . . . . . .

[Lincoln]

Most people were outraged during the trials after ww2 in Germany at the heartless indifference of the persecutors of Jews and others during the war. I was wondering if you would all see that. Or would the makup of the court attract your attention first?

[monkspider]

Originally posted by Lincoln
I honestly cannot understand how someone can take something as serious as this lightly. It reveals a lack of compassions in spite of the sarcasm in your posts monk.

Seriously Lincoln, I don't find abortions to be a pleasent thing. In fact, if it were up to me, I would hope that abortions would never be necessary and every potential child would have a loving home to care for it. In fact, I think that children should be treated as the world's most valuable commodity.

This is a subject that touches me even on a personal level actually. Just this year, my younger sister became pregnant and was thinking about having an abortion. The Mrs. and I explained to her some of the risks, but told her that we would love and support her regardless of her decision. She is now planning on having the baby in a couple months.

It is just disappointing that this is the only issue that you ever choose to make a stand of compassion on.

-edited for typos

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Lincoln
Most people were outraged during the trials after ww2 in Germany at the heartless indifference of the persecutors of Jews and others during the war. I was wondering if you would all see that. Or would the makup of the court attract your attention first?

Well, considering that I don't hold humans already born at the same level as fetuses (until they reach advanced enough stage), this question is moot.


Just for the record -- I really do not support unrestricted abortion. Abortion IMO is justified in the classical cases of rape and/or endangerment of the pregnant woman's life.

I also strongly oppose partial birth abortion.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by monkspider


Seriously Lincoln, I don't find abortions to be a pleasent thing. In fact, if it were up to me, I would hope that abortions would never be necessary and every potential child would have a loving home to care for it. In fact, I think that children should be treated as the world's most valuable commodity.

This is a subject that touches me even on a personal level actually. Just this year, my younger sister became pregnant and I was thinking about having an abortion. The Mrs. and I explained to her some of the risks, but told her that we would love and support her regardless of her decision. She is now planning on having the baby in a couple months.

It is just disappointing that this is the only issue that you ever choose to make a stand of compassion on.

Actually this is not the only issue I choose to take a stand on but if someone is not moved by the outrageous treatment of an innocent child then I seriously doubt their motives. You have a picture of a cute dog for your avatar. Would you also be offended if a judge asked pointed questions about pulling his legs off during a trial?

[Lincoln]

Well thanks for clearing that up Mr Fun.

[Frankychan]

You know what REALLY gets my attention?

The fact that it's guys deciding the fate of abortion. Why don't we turn this over to the women judges and decide? Sandra Day O'Connor would shoot this thing down in a second.

I figure that since I don't have the equipment, I shouldn't be making the policies. Woman's body, woman's choice. Simple.

[monkspider]

Originally posted by Lincoln


Actually this is not the only issue I choose to take a stand on but if someone is not moved by the outrageous treatment of an innocent child then I seriously doubt their motives. You have a picture of a cute dog for your avatar. Would you also be offended if a judge asked pointed questions about pulling his legs off during a trial?

Well sure, but for various reasons. I'm glad you like my dog.

Seriously Lincoln, there's nothing wrong with not agreeing with abortion. But you would be a lot better off if you fought for other compassionate causes with the same degree of intensity.

[Lincoln]

Should only women judges judge women? And can women judges judge men?

[Dr Strangelove]

I don't get it. If a woman asks for the voluntary termination of her fetus's life, why would she want a corpse to grieve over?

Reading the transcript it appears to me that the judge may have felt that the doctor was being evasive.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by monkspider


Well sure, but for various reasons. I'm glad you like my dog.

Seriously Lincoln, there's nothing wrong with not agreeing with abortion. But you would be a lot better off if you fought for other compassionate causes with the same degree of intensity.

Well I worked with teenage kids for about 20 years and I supported a womens shelter for a number of years and worked with ex-cons etc. but this issue (which I have never been actively involved with except on posts here) seems to be a dividing line for me because it exposes the hypocrisy of people who claim to care as they continue to remain silent while kids just seconds or inches from birth are brutally dismembered.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I don't get it. If a woman asks for the voluntary termination of her fetus's life, why would she want a corpse to grieve over?

Reading the transcript it appears to me that the judge may have felt that the doctor was being evasive.

Bingo! I wonder why no one else saw that quote. How or why would someone grieve over so much tissue?

[Gatekeeper]

So I guess this judge is OK with you, Lincoln, because his sentiments are similar to, if not identical, to yours? What happens if a judge's sentiments are not in line with your views? Would you then be like some others on this thread, questioning the judge's ability to render an unbiased judgement?

One person's activist judge is another person's unbiased member of the judiciary, it seems.

Gatekeeper