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  • #151
    Originally posted by bfg9000


    Well, since you said "please"...



    I think it is an arrogant statement because Bush has never given us concrete proof that WMD existed in Iraq. He took for granted the British brief that stated WMD were in Iraq , which has since been discredited, along with vague CIA intelligence reports on Iraq, and ran with the Iraqi War before fully checking the situation out. Why? Because he had a personal agenda with Iraq that he needed to address. As someone pointed out earlier, Saddam tried to kill his father. And, no wartime president has ever failed to get reelected. The arrogant statement this morning says to the world, "I got away with my private war at your expense, and there is nothing you can do about it".
    The first thing I can think of:

    It's pretty arrogant to say he started this war because Saddam tried to kill his father, without concrete proof.

    While it may be true, there is as much proof as there is in my personal theory:

    He attacked Iraq because the name is grammatically incorrect. Q at the end of a sentence?

    ATTACK!!!!

    ACK!
    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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    • #152
      I'm glad all you 'hawks' are still so proud


      Yes, I'm proud. I'm not proud of Bush, though.

      And I thought the joke was funny. So nyah!
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #153
        Tuber,

        Your theory blows. It obvious that attack rhymes with Iraq, hence the reason.
        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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        • #154
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          I believe that I already responded to that.
          That article link you posted was a Dec 2002 assesment of what we did and didnot know about the Iraqi weapons program. It does not prove the existence of WMD in Iraq, which is what you are arguing, I believe. This article was from a point in time where were demanding more information from Iraq. Shortly after this was published, Bush went with war ahead on the basis of sketchy CIA intelligence and the discredited British dossier on Iraq and WITHOUT concrete proof.

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          • #155
            No, I'm giving you the info the admin was going off of straight from the UN itself. You're free to argue that even if that info had been borne out the war would have been unjustified but to argue that the Admin had no reasonable basis for its claims is lieing.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #156
              Originally posted by Tingkai

              And that's the real problem. If a guy tells a lame joke then he shouldn't be a leader.
              Then why are there not a ton of threads about removing Silvio Berlusconi? Personally I think you guys should lighten up and relax. The joke wasn't lame either, it was quite funny.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #157
                Originally posted by Tuberski


                The first thing I can think of:

                It's pretty arrogant to say he started this war because Saddam tried to kill his father, without concrete proof.

                Washington Post 9/26/02:

                "at a fundraising dinner in Houston, Bush made perhaps his most personal reference to the Iraqi plot to assassinate his father in 1993, shortly after George H.W. Bush left the presidency. "There's no doubt his hatred is mainly directed at us," the president said of Hussein. "There's no doubt he can't stand us. After all, this is a guy that tried to kill my dad at one time."



                Obviously this was a personal issue for Dubya... An issue settled at the expense of American lives.

                He sounds like he's acting in a cheap martial arts film with that quote.

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                • #158
                  Originally posted by bfg9000



                  Washington Post 9/26/02:

                  "at a fundraising dinner in Houston, Bush made perhaps his most personal reference to the Iraqi plot to assassinate his father in 1993, shortly after George H.W. Bush left the presidency. "There's no doubt his hatred is mainly directed at us," the president said of Hussein. "There's no doubt he can't stand us. After all, this is a guy that tried to kill my dad at one time."



                  Obviously this was a personal issue for Dubya... An issue settled at the expense of American lives.
                  Oh shut up. What is wrong with taking out a man who tried to kill a US president at one point? It isn't a personal issue as it effects all Americans. It is the president afterall. If it was Clinton... Saddam tried to kill you'd be up all in arms. The expense of American lifes? Here we go again with the liberal profiteering of the lives of soldiers.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #159
                    Originally posted by bfg9000



                    Washington Post 9/26/02:

                    "at a fundraising dinner in Houston, Bush made perhaps his most personal reference to the Iraqi plot to assassinate his father in 1993, shortly after George H.W. Bush left the presidency. "There's no doubt his hatred is mainly directed at us," the president said of Hussein. "There's no doubt he can't stand us. After all, this is a guy that tried to kill my dad at one time."



                    Obviously this was a personal issue for Dubya... An issue settled at the expense of American lives.


                    This constitutes proof????


                    "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                    “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                    • #160
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      No, I'm giving you the info the admin was going off of straight from the UN itself. You're free to argue that even if that info had been borne out the war would have been unjustified but to argue that the Admin had no reasonable basis for its claims is lieing.
                      Certainly there was reason for being suspicious of Iraq. But was there enough evidence to start a war?

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                      • #161
                        If you accept the premise that the presence of WMD constitutes a threat as you seem to be argueing, yes.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #162
                          Originally posted by bfg9000


                          Certainly there was reason for being suspicious of Iraq. But was there enough evidence to start a war?
                          The sheer number that Saddam killed is enough evidence to go to war.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #163
                            Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe




                            This constitutes proof????


                            In that quote, he put the whole thing in personal terms by referring to the first Bush as "Dad" and not "a previous president" or "government official". Dubya's administration had plans to go after Iraq even before 9/11. Dubya filled up his administration with people from his Dad's administration. It seems as if he had an axe to grind.

                            My speculation about Bush's motives for starting the war is not the issue here. Stop trying to put up a smokecreen.

                            You and the other Bush zombies still have not refuted my point that he had no concrete proof of WMD, therefore no valid pretext for starting the war.

                            And, back to the topic, his joke about "Where are the WMD's" was meant as a slap in the face to everyone who thought they could stop him from his personal vendetta against Saddam.

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                            • #164
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              If you accept the premise that the presence of WMD constitutes a threat as you seem to be argueing, yes.
                              Where did you get this evidence that WMD exists in Iraq? The govt would like to know about it.

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                              • #165
                                I suggest improving your reading skills.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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