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  • #31
    EiF: Your post is flawed on two counts:

    Firstly WWII and its causes are not analogous to the current situation (and I defy anyone to show my how they are) since we are there dealing with states therefore the tactical situation is far different. Also each tactical situation is wildly different. I doubt that anyone is going to start nuking anyone.

    Secondly, the atomic bombs were creating martyrs. Think of the Japanese insurrection led by Major Hatanaka that very nearly stopped the surrender announcement. The Americans were also about to nuke Tokyo (more dozens of thousands of bleached skeletons) because the Nagasaki bomb had not generated a surrender announcement.

    People think that the nukes caused the Japanese surrender, but it was more likely the Russians declaring war on Japan, the 1.5 million Red Army troops marching through Manchuria, Korea and the like.
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    • #32
      A good Christian turns the other cheek

      Retaliation is exactly what the terrorists want to provoke, to show the people living in democracies that their governments are not really democratic.
      So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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      • #33
        It wasn't meant to be a 100% accurate reflection, it's just light satire on the attitudes of the pro-terror lobby.
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        • #34
          *EiF* has been terrorizing the peace loving people of Russia in Sweden.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #35
            the pro-terror lobby
            Please explain?
            "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Park Avenue
              Giancarlo has sensible views on foreign policy issues.
              Absolutely priceless.


              Oswald Ernald Mosley praises Franco- who'd have thunk it?


              Yes, appeasement of terrorists gets you nowhere- unless you mean the State of Israel, and Menachem Begin's (ex-terrorist, Oswald, didn't you know?) premiership.

              Oh, and the foundation of Kenya, under Jomo Kenyatta's (ex-terrorist) leadership.

              Uh, and the Irish Free State, with ex-terrorist Michael Collins as one of its leaders.

              Ah, and the independence of Zimbabwe, under Joshua Nkomo (ex-terrorist) and Robert Mugabe (now Oswald, I know you've heard of him, he's black) also an ex-terrorist.

              I suppose one might include also those Afrikaaner chappies who ran the Union of South Africa after the conclusion of the last Anglo-Boer War- after all, some of them employed terrorist methods too.


              So, apart from Israel, Ireland, Kenya, Zimbabwe, and South Africa (and a few others I can't be arsed to mention) sitting down to tea with terrorists obviously gets you nowhere, unless you happen to be Menachem Begin, Jomo Kenyatta, Michael Collins, Robert Mugabe, and the Afrikaaner Broederbond.
              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Whaleboy
                EiF: Your post is flawed on two counts:

                Firstly WWII and its causes are not analogous to the current situation (and I defy anyone to show my how they are) since we are there dealing with states therefore the tactical situation is far different.
                I find that amusing as it comes immediately after your post in which you substitute Islamic terrorists with Nazi Germany in order to make a rebuttal.
                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                • #38
                  *End Is Forever*

                  You are an idiot, aren't you? Where did you learn history? What's this 'world' you're talking about?
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                    *End Is Forever*

                    You are an idiot, aren't you? Where did you learn history? What's this 'world' you're talking about?
                    What part of my warning did you not understand?

                    Stick to the topic.. NOT THE POSTERS... and one more personal insult out of you and you will be restricted.
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                    • #40
                      Allow me to repeat myself. What about the Northern Ireland example?

                      Should we be blowing up the former Provos?
                      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                      • #41
                        Former provos? If they still pose a threat, then yes, otherwise it's probably unwise. Should we be taking action against currently operating terrorists? Certainly.
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                        • #42
                          Park, you avatar is a disgrace. And I'll not tell you what I think about you because Ming has stated clearly that this thread is not for it.
                          Trying to rehabilitateh and contribuing again to the civ-community

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                          • #43
                            i think it's very difficult to compare the IRA and people like hamas...
                            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by C0ckney
                              i think it's very difficult to compare the IRA and people like hamas...
                              Of course.

                              The IRA placed cherry bombs, or killed with kindness, in Enniskillen. The Continuity IRA loved to death the civilians killed in Omagh .

                              Good grief.

                              The Birmingham Pub Bombings of 1974 killed 21 people and injured 182 others. Presumably you think the bombers weren't like Hamas members because they didn't get blown up themselves, unlike the would be IRA bomber in Coventry, James McDade, sent to glory whilst attempting to plant a bomb, in the same month as the Birmingham blasts.
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ming


                                What part of my warning did you not understand?

                                Stick to the topic.. NOT THE POSTERS... and one more personal insult out of you and you will be restricted.
                                his post might be sarcasm, I can't tell.

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