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  • Originally posted by Azazel


    Oh, and btw, Pax, (using a hyperbole here), don't you think that killoing Hitler would be immoral?
    Blah@you.

    Bad move this.
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    • does this action make Israelis safer in either the short or long term? Personsally I doubt it highly. Hence I fail to see the use of this attack. It is not justice (that would be arresting and putting him on trial), it is vengence.
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      • Can we just give Israel and Palestine each a button to annihilate each other? Who ever presses their button first wins and the rest of the world gets some peace and quiet...

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        • Let's see...

          Is this a big loss for the world? No.
          Is the world a better place without this guy? Possibly.
          Did killing him solve any problem or will it bring peace to the people of Israel? No.
          Will it be used as a pretext for further violence? Yes. Definitely.

          Then what good did it do?
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          • Well, well it was about time
            I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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            • Originally posted by Azazel


              "blood will flow" and "it will only enrage them more" is bull****. It's a presumption that they were some sort of hippies beforehand. All those surrounding him Hamas "activists" anyway, so why would anything change?

              Oh, and btw, Pax, (using a hyperbole here), don't you think that killoing Hitler would be immoral? Killing leaders in times of war is a legitimate tactic, as long as they make strategic decision-making, and he certainly was.

              I think that this has been done to weaken the central authority in Hamas, before the withdrawal, and not to pander the right. ( It's hardly a balance, really )
              So we presume you consider Sharon a legitimate target for assasination?
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              • Was Yassin as valid a target as the Jewish Tourism minister that was killed a few years back?

                Both were rhetorical fire breathing hateful windbags.

                The difference is, if Israel had been a little more patient Yassin would have died soon anyway.

                If killing one is wrong, both both are wrong - and by the way, whatever happened to "Thou shalt not murder". Let alone "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours land".

                Violent subcultures are not defeated by cutting off heads. They are like hydras - for every head you cut, 2 more grow.



                As for Israel surviving forever - I wouldn't put money on it.

                Mind you, I wouldn't put money on Israel not surviving until wolrd oil supplies start getting tight.

                Then it might make a useful bargaining chip to be thrown to the wolves.

                Sorry to be vague - but I can't claim to read the future, unlike some of the posts above.
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                • Shame on Israel for taking any action necessary to defend itself!!
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                  • On the notion that raids are impossible- Israel launches raids in the extreemly densely populated refugee camps all the time to arrest militants-if the IDF will risk soldiers lives, and the lives of Pal. civilians to get low level militants, all of sudden this is utterly impossible with high level ones?

                    This is my theory- besides some real concerns about such a raid, but concerns that can't be really absolute given the evidence, this is the governments way to get around that pesky lacks of a DP. If a militant were caught and given a trial, could they be put to death given that Israel does not have a DP? but if we kill them extra-judiciously, well, what the hey.
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                    • Originally posted by Pekka
                      I refuse to take any joy from a death of another human, but I can't say I'm losing my sleep over this.
                      WHO ARE YOU, AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH PEKKA!?!?
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                      • Originally posted by dannubis
                        tell that to the parents or children of the people who died while the idf was taking out it's target ...
                        Tell it to the parents of the children who would have died had this target not been taken out...

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                        • Why don't they use snipers instead?
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • I dunno - why don't you ask them?

                            Do you seriously think the IDF wants more civilian dead? They aren't stupid; they know what's in their best interest.

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                            • THEY ARE ****ING IDIOTS. This guy was as perfectly harmless as you can get as a member of Hamas at all. Now they've got another martyr to wave around. Thanks very much Uncle Sharon.
                              Demoralise my ass. The only thing this means is more and more terror and more terrorists. Nothing bloody else. Victory. Thanks.
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                              • Ding-Dong the witch is dead

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