Hamas Founder KILLED

[Docfeelgood]

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours land".

The Jewish Palastinians tryed to live peacfully with the Arab palistians.




Those Arabs were the ones who started the killins first.

Who you trying to place blame?

[Firelad]

docfeelgood - not exactly. I'm not saying the jews are solely to blame - but they're not exactly blameless either.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kucinich
Do you seriously think the IDF wants more civilian dead?

I don't think they care. They're only Palestinians, it's not like they're humans. Better to kill large numbers of collaterals than risk an Israeli.

I happen to believe there is a wing of the IDF, as well as the Israeli government, that believes the conflict is in their best interests. As long as there is conflict, they are justified in remaining in control of the territories, which means they can continue to expand the settlements and continue stealing Palestinian resources.

[Docfeelgood]

docfeelgood - not exactly. I'm not saying the jews are solely to blame - but they're not exactly blameless either.

How you figure

[Firelad]

Oh, and I apologise for the possible threadjack. Let's please keep to the point

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Kucinich


Tell it to the parents of the children who would have died had this target not been taken out...

yeah, would have ...

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by MrFun
Shame on Israel for taking any action necessary to defend itself!!

Palestinians don't seem to be incredibly pleased, and Hamas hasn't exactly dissolved because of this either.
In fact, I'd say in short term is makes Israel *less* safe.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Docfeelgood


The Jewish Palastinians tryed to live peacfully with the Arab palistians.

NOt really. While it was the Arabs who first resorted to armed violence, it is not like there was "peaceful" coexistance- think why most Brit. whitepapers writen during their mandate (and all the time as they prepared to create a Jewish homeland) were not very positive about the zionists. For exmaple, the zionist labor movement boycotted any Jewish business that dared employ Arabs "with jewish money", sop as more efficient modern industry built with foreing investment drove the arab artisans out of work, they could not find work at these new factories becuase the owners were bullied into employing only jews, not arabs. As you may guess, this created mass resentment among the ranks of the now unemployed or impoverished.

Think of it this way-imagine any town USA- a group of immigrants starts coming into town-they don;t really hang out-they keep to themselves a lot, and little by little they begin to build a parallel town-then, with outside investment they begin to take hold of the economy, but they do not allow the intial and much more numerous inhabitant to share equally. Add ot this that you know the aim of these new immigrants is to make the town THEIR town, a town for them-with you having rights fine, but the town is still for THEM. Now tell me if you think the original inhabitants will be happy with this sort of outcome?

[Docfeelgood]

I happen to believe there is a wing of the IDF, as well as the Israeli government, that believes the conflict is in their best interests. As long as there is conflict, they are justified in remaining in control of the territories, which means they can continue to expand the settlements and continue stealing Palestinian resources.

I happen to believe that the Arab Palastinians just want to kill.
If there were no Jews Palastinians in Israel they would be killing each other.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
OK guys, I'm talking very long term here, like 100 years at least. Don't you know that most peoples in history stopped existing after being enslaved/massacred? By virtue of its geographical position and historical hatred, Israel is the perfect meat.

Israel will most likely annihilate every Arab population center should they try anything like this. By the way, in 100 years we won't be on oil, and the Arab world really hits rock bottom.

[Bereta_Eder]

A french journalist said that's nothing. around 40 to 50 more years of violence...

[GePap]

Originally posted by Whoha


Israel will most likely annihilate every Arab population center should they try anything like this. By the way, in 100 years we won't be on oil, and the Arab world really hits rock bottom.

And we don't? (without oil that is)

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I don't know, I'm just extrapolating from the fact that Israel is outnumbered in a 40 to 1 ration. That'll cost you eventually. Maybe the Arabs will get some kind of alliance with China?

Hmm. Last I heard, China was busy cracking down on Muslim militants in Xinjiang Province (I think that's the correct name ... anyway, it's one of the most western provinces in China). So long as that continues, I don't forsee any possibility of an Arab-China allliance. Unless, of course, the good Muslim folks in said province become, well, expendable for the greater good.

Gatekeeper

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Docfeelgood



I happen to believe that . . .

That's far too simplistic, but it does fit with the agenda of those who don't want to see that the Israelis are behaving badly and that the Palestinians, whatever their poblems, have very real greivences.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper


Hmm. Last I heard, China was busy cracking down on Muslim militants in Xinjiang Province (I think that's the correct name ... anyway, it's one of the most western provinces in China). So long as that continues, I don't forsee any possibility of an Arab-China allliance. Unless, of course, the good Muslim folks in said province become, well, expendable for the greater good.

Gatekeeper

China and Pakistan are very close.