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  • #61
    Boris you are full of it.

    Israel doesn't need our military aid. I don't know why we still send it to them. Their pilots and aircraft for example are just as good if not better than their American counterparts. They pioneered the use of small drones that blasted down Arab AA defenses, once considered unbeatable.

    They clearly whooped Arab azz all by themselves every time they have been messed with.

    Azazel maybe you can fill him in on the specifics.
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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    • #62
      I don't know, I'm just extrapolating from the fact that Israel is outnumbered in a 40 to 1 ration. That'll cost you eventually. Maybe the Arabs will get some kind of alliance with China?
      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Oncle Boris
        I don't know, I'm just extrapolating from the fact that Israel is outnumbered in a 40 to 1 ration. That'll cost you eventually. Maybe the Arabs will get some kind of alliance with China?
        That's crap. And by the way, the Arabs had an alliance with the Russians and Chinese.. it didn't work. The Arabs launched several wars on Israel, they failed each and every single time. And they won't get any better.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #64
          Ted, what's the population of Israel? 6, 7 millions? What are they to do, when the Arab world finally gets back on track, and buy 43 times their number of planes, have 54 times more men, and receive help from, say, China, in exchange from oil, or any kind of valuable resource they'll have by that time?
          In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oncle Boris
            Ted, what's the population of Israel? 6, 7 millions? What are they to do, when the Arab world finally gets back on track, and buy 43 times their number of planes, have 54 times more men, and receive help from, say, China, in exchange from oil, or any kind of valuable resource they'll have by that time?
            They already did that. In fact take the Egyptians.. they outnumbered the Israelis by many times as did their airforce. They still failed.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #66
              OK guys, I'm talking very long term here, like 100 years at least. Don't you know that most peoples in history stopped existing after being enslaved/massacred? By virtue of its geographical position and historical hatred, Israel is the perfect meat.
              In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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              • #67
                Ted, what's the population of Israel? 6, 7 millions? What are they to do, when the Arab world finally gets back on track, and buy 43 times their number of planes, have 54 times more men, and receive help from, say, China, in exchange from oil, or any kind of valuable resource they'll have by that time?

                Wait, I thought that all this hostility against us was because of the rich/poor divide... If they'll be able to buy all that, they certainly are not poor.

                Still, nukes, man. nukes.

                Oh, and yes. Israel faced armies of 700,000 , like in 73' yet we still beat them, ( with american ammunition support, yes, but the same went for the other side, thousands of tanks and planes, still not repaid by the arabs to the Russians )
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #68
                  Boris population doesn't mean squat on the modern battlefield. Especially in a small area like Israel, there are only so many entry points to attack them. Basically the Arabs could funnel their massive amounts of soliders into a very small area only to get picked off by the superior combined arms tactics the Israelis would unleash on them.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #69
                    Bah, I'm not debating this anymore. Nukes aren't going to be eternally powerful. By some time the most powerful countries will have SDI or something, and the Arab world WILL get out of its torpor, someday. Hopefully, the Arabs and Israel will be friendly by that time- because if they're not, Israel loses. That's it.
                    In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker
                      Boris population doesn't mean squat on the modern battlefield. Especially in a small area like Israel, there are only so many entry points to attack them. Basically the Arabs could funnel their massive amounts of soliders into a very small area only to get picked off by the superior combined arms tactics the Israelis would unleash on them.
                      No, it just means more $, more equipment, more advanced warfare, etc.

                      If you really think that Israel can hold ground for ETERNITY, then you're being naive. No country, no empire will ever be eternal. That is an historical constant.

                      The question is: by the time the Arab world rises from its retarded position, will the hatred between Muslims and Jews be over?

                      The level I'm talking about here, is like someone saying back in 1823 "I just think there will be a genocide someday in Europe", and he would have been right.
                      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                      • #71
                        Ahhh, sorry Player but we have repeated examples of super small countries like Rome and England doing things like, ohh, taking over most of the world.

                        Large population doesn't necessarily mean more money or better equipment. In Gulf War 1 the Coalition was outnumbered by the 4th largest army in the world but the war will go down in history as one of the most lopsided victories ever.

                        The Israelis have been repeatedly outnumbered for the past 50 years and have never been beaten.

                        Regarding the hatred, it's hard to say. The roots of the current conflict go back thousands of years.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #72
                          Player Please.

                          At a certain point it will no longer matter how accurate and precise your weapons are. With the right tactics the Israelis will lose and that's unfortunate but it's the price they will pay for thinking that peace can come from threat of war. That's what happened in WW1 and WW2.
                          What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
                          What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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                          • #73
                            What point will that be?

                            In the year 4545 when the dumbass Arabs are after Israel for putting a damn synogogue on Rhea, the icey moon of Saturn?
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #74
                              define 'retarded'. If you think their retardness is just economical, then no, that's not enough change. If you think their retardness is social, AND economical, that if those both change, I don't see any problems happening. You must understand, the majority of Israelis don't hate arabs. We do hate the arab societies, and when those will change, I see no reason for hostility against them.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker
                                What point will that be?

                                In the year 4545 when the dumbass Arabs are after Israel for putting a damn synogogue on Rhea, the icey moon of Saturn?
                                I would like to prevent this war/hostilities between people from going that long.
                                What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
                                What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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