How do you raise a child to be a Good Communist?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by joncha
Didn't you know? Fez is a socialist. Of the national variety.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
There can be a belief that humanity is chosen by the evolutionary process, since it is the only species to be given the gift of logic and reasoning and that makes humans special. It doesn't require a God.

How can evolution chose anything? If anything, evolution teaches us to be modest and respectful of other sentient creatures, in remembering that we could as well be the inferior specy.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Gives the name Pop - eye a whole new meaning.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
How can evolution chose anything?

It's obviously personifcation to illustrate a point, a literary device. Don't get hung up on semantics if you can help it.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Have you ever heard of the American Institutionalists School of economic thought? Thornston Veblen was a famous guy there.

Can't say as I am familiar with them. Sounds intrigueing.

You did understand my main point was the deisre for the win feeding the self esteem moreso than the desire to see others lose. That is a darker yet secondary thrill.

[chequita guevara]

If you study economics at all, you'll run across Veblen and his Theory of the Leisure Class.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Can't say as I am familiar with them. Sounds intrigueing.

You did understand my main point was the deisre for the win feeding the self esteem moreso than the desire to see others lose. That is a darker yet secondary thrill.

I disagree that it's a thrill at all, but I wonder about some of you right wing folks.

Anyway, since we agree that the significant human goal is economic benefit for the self, the only thing left to do is create a system that will motivate people to work in an effective and efficient way and assuming that they will do so if it benefits them economically. I see no reason why we can't do that and have economic and political equality. If you do then you can make your argument in light of your new understanding about human nature.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Thanks on the Veblen refrence, I'll have to pick it up for a read whilst on the road.

[Kidlicious]

You raised an interesting point though Ogie. You could also assume that people are primarily concerned with equality as opposed to individual economic benefit, however I think that whether or not you prefer inequality to equality depends on how much economic benefit the individual will get from any particular system with inequality. Poor people in a system with inequality will be more inclined to prefer equality, and rich people in a system with inequality will be more inclined to prefer inequality. However, in a system with equality I'm certain that the vast majority of people will prefer equality, because when you seperate equality from economics it is in itself desirable where inequality is not.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If you study economics at all, you'll run across Veblen and his Theory of the Leisure Class.

Sometimes .

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[qIf you study economics at all, you'll run across Veblen and his Theory of the Leisure Class.[/q]

Sometimes .

Well if you study economics, not just orthodoxy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well if you study ideology, I guess you run into it .

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well if you study ideology, I guess you run into it .

Aren't you suppose to study ideology? How do you know which one is best if you don't?

[Imran Siddiqui]

In economics? Not so much. You study more numbers (or should). Ideology is better put in the political science department.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
In economics? Not so much. You study more numbers (or should). Ideology is better put in the political science department.

Numbers are manipulated. Economics is for manipulating them in your favor and debunking other economists manipulations, all in favor of your ideology.