How do you raise a child to be a Good Communist?

[loinburger]

Originally posted by JohnT
So, how do you raise a kid to be a "natural" Communist? How do you get rid of the instinct of private property, of ownership?

Send her to a gulag. It's probably already too late in the case of poor Sophie, though... she'll have to be re-educated via firing squad.

[Buck Birdseed]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
"such a system is the most efficient"

No, as there would be no incentives to work to full effort.

Of course there would, the well-being of society! What higher goal could exist?

(Utopian socialists thend to be a tad naive one thinks.)

[Nubclear]

We can't just assume the world is with them because the world isn't.
I've tried on my two children to raise them to be nice communistchildren. It failed in my oldest, but it seems to be suceeding in my youngest

In my oldest I tried teaching him about collective ownership, industrialisation, etc however that failed. He's a capitalist
However in my younger one I taught him about private property and (more importantly) about morality. I didn't force the ideology on him, instead I taught him about it.
I taught him that private property can be a good thing, but that collective ownership can also be a good thing and that greed indeed is one of the basic human emotions that must be fulfilled if one is to achieve higher thinking, however that this need must only be fulfilled ot the extent in which it is required: After that it is wasteful and immoral.
But one cannot expect results at 4 At that time children are not capable of higher intellectual reasoning and as such, you can't expect them to embrace any form of "utopian communism" (As impossible as it is).
I also taught him that educated men recognize their failings, however they also seek to overcome them whether those failings be a skill or whether they be dependence on the more basic emotions.
Thus he now realizes that true utopian communism wil take many thousnads of years in order to even be possible, however that all people must endeavour to achieve this state and propagate this idea. As more of the peoples become educated, this becomes more and more possible and we distance ourselves away from capitalism

[JohnT]

So you are now arguing that Communism will come true in some vague time period "in the future".

Isn't this analogous to Christian theology, this Second Coming of Marx?

[Kuciwalker]

Actually, he's talking about the Mormon variant

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by JohnT
So you are now arguing that Communism will come true in some vague time period "in the future".

When did I ever argue otherwise?

Isn't this analogous to Christian theology, this Second Coming of Marx?

No.

[Verto]

Originally posted by ErikM


Well, if you are an authentic Communist, you of course don't go to a restaurant that has a MENU for crying out loud, so the whole setup is entirely academic

I think you, that if you are an authentic Communist, you can't afford to go to a restaurant that has a menu.

[General Ludd]

If you want to raise a natural communist, put them in a natural environment.

[Buck Birdseed]

Anyway, JohnT, how do you know The Grabbing of the Salt Shaker wasn't a revolutionary act of defiance, the proletariat retaking what is rightfully its from the hegemonistic bourgeois institution/restaurant?

[JohnT]

I thought the idea was that some restaurants were abhorrent because they kept alive the fuedal and antiquated notions of "servitude" in their use of a wait staff.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
Anyway, JohnT, how do you know The Grabbing of the Salt Shaker wasn't a revolutionary act of defiance, the proletariat retaking what is rightfully its from the hegemonistic bourgeois institution/restaurant?

Because she has ten times that amount sitting in the pantry at home.

[Nubclear]

Perhaps its a revolutionary act against you, the capitalist, for denying the people what they rightfully deserve.

[Spiffor]

Those commies who don't share the idea of utopic communism (on these boards, at least Azazel and myself) want to create a working system that takes human greedy nature into account. I suggest you to look at Az's and my posts in the latest Communism vs. Capitalism thread to see how we intend to work it out.

[Verto]

I thought communists, by definition, had to ridicule utopian socialism.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Isn't this analogous to Christian theology, this Second Coming of Marx?

Yes... Marxist Communism is simply another form of religion.