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    If Kurdish nationalism sparks civil war in Iraq, Iran and Turkey, should the Greeks retake the city they founded and the Greek areas of asia minor?
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    It didn't work the last time they tried it. Greeks would have to go Stalinist if they are that stupid.
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    • #3
      Istanbul is so thoroughly Turkish that the only way the Greeks could hold it would be to exterminate the existing population and supplant it with Greek colonials. Not exactly approved of in this day and age.
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      • #4
        Why don't they simply rename the EU, "Romania," admit Turkey, move the EU capital to Istanbul, and rename it Nova Roma.

        The "Empire" would be restored in a sense.
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          BTW, don't you guys think that the EU should have the permanent seats on the UN SC, rather than the UK and France?
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            BTW, don't you guys think that the EU should have the permanent seats on the UN SC, rather than the UK and France?
            Why?
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            • #7
              There isn't a pan-EU foreign policy, so no.
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              • #8
                StLeo, that was around WW1 iirc. Anyway, why would they have to "go Stalinist"?

                Boris, consider that the land was originally Greek land. So what you say? Well, in the US west the indians are taking back land all over the place because it was once theirs. Europeans love that stuff, they should love Byzantium for the Greeks.

                Ned, who asked you?
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                • #9
                  Well, Big Crunch, you should move in that direction.
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                  • #10
                    How about we just take away the French seat?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lancer
                      How about we just take away the French seat?
                      Lancer, you get it.
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                      • #12
                        Good thought Lance.


                        I have often pondered how Turkey is going to except the {NEW & improved G.W.} Iraq?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ned
                          Why don't they simply rename the EU, "Romania," admit Turkey, move the EU capital to Istanbul, and rename it Nova Roma.

                          The "Empire" would be restored in a sense.
                          I expect Italy and Romania would object to that.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mercatore Uno


                            I expect Italy and Romania would object to that.
                            Romania has that name for a reason. I am sure they will also it same to be restored to a greated "Roman Empire."

                            I have no idea why Italy would object to Istanbul being restored to its former name.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ned
                              BTW, don't you guys think that the EU should have the permanent seats on the UN SC, rather than the UK and France?
                              Only when it's an acutal country.
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