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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yeah. Some people just deserve to be murdered.
Yeah. Some people just deserve to be murdered.
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You know that's true. I invoke Godwin's Law! Adolf Hitler deserved to be murdererd.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
Really, almost. I don't see why those who blindly supported the humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan in order to arrest a few thugs are less desserving of death or starvation than the Afghan refugees.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yeah. Some people just deserve to be murdered.
On another level, incompetent politicians who undertake murderous trade policies on behalf of their citizens share they part of the responsibility.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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You loose the debate then.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Oncle Boris: I agree with you. Those evil Spanish commuters deserved thier fate.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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This just in...Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I don't think Giancarlo votes Republican. Too left-wing for him. Last time we heard, he was supporting Franco.
No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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Nice try.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Oncle Boris: I agree with you. Those evil Spanish commuters deserved thier fate.
In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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I'd say so. It's essentially the position your argueing for by offering political cover for murdering civilians in the name of a cause you happen to like.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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No, I was not refering to this specific case. In fact, I did provide the Afghanistan example to move the debate on American soil.
In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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That's not really the issue. If you don't like how your points get applied, don't make stupid points.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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First off there already was a humanitarian disaster. If anything Afghanistan has gotten better. They have been having a steady amount of rainfall for about a year now.Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Really, almost. I don't see why those who blindly supported the humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan in order to arrest a few thugs are less desserving of death or starvation than the Afghan refugees.
On another level, incompetent politicians who undertake murderous trade policies on behalf of their citizens share they part of the responsibility.
Aznar is also not incompetent, you fool.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Well, if my point was that people who blindly follow policies that end up encouraging terrorism are, in some way, asking for it, I don't know how you can link that with Madrid's bombing, which was accomplished by a group with obviously no cause at all. A 'criminal cult', as said by Chegitz.Originally posted by DinoDoc
That's not really the issue. If you don't like how your points get applied, don't make stupid points.
EDIT: if, of course, the ETA turns out to be responsible.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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They all have causes and justifications for what they do. ETA hangs its hat on Basque nationalism. I fail to see how that provides any sort of justification for killing civilians.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Well, if my point was that people who blindly follow policies that end up encouraging terrorism are, in some way, asking for it,
Which is a stupid point, because you only apply it to those on the side of the US
For example, wouldn't you say Saddam was blindly following policies that ended up encouraging American agression (however unjustified)? Aren't the Palestinians blindly following policies that end up encouraging Israeli retaliation? Since the Palestinians are "asking for it", it's fine to just bomb them however you want, right?Comment
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That's the fallacy everyone loves when discussing terrorism. EXPLAINING an act, is in no way providing for a moral JUSTIFICATION.Originally posted by DinoDoc
They all have causes and justifications for what they do. ETA hangs its hat on Basque nationalism. I fail to see how that provides any sort of justification for killing civilians.
I never said justified, I said 'had it coming'. Agathon provided an excellent explanation for this retributivist behavior you are showing, in his 'moral is not a zero sum game' post.
EDIT: this post could also be considered an answer to Skywalker.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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They "had it coming" is a moral statement, fakeboris... you're saying they deserved it.Comment
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