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  • Originally posted by GePap


    Did I say anytime this might be the case?
    No you did not. Pardon if i read more into your comments than you intended.
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    • Originally posted by lord of the mark
      Do you really think if Spain were to withdraw from Iraq AQ would leave them alone??? note that AQ targeted Istanbul and Jakarta, despite opposition to the Iraq war from both Turkey and Indonesia. AQ is playing its own games.
      Wise words Sadly, not everyone sees that. Is like believing that if someone is going to attack you he won´t do because you refuse to fight.

      Remember that in WW2 nazis took many countries that were neutral. And they were planning to conquer the left ones after the allies were defeated. This position is more an egoist one. Hoping that someone else (USA) will solve the problem while Europe allows itself the luxury of staying at second place.

      And about this ETA/AQ thing: Remember that ETA tried to do something similar to what has been done this day three times before.
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      • It was TOO LARGE an attack for ETA to have ever managed to pull off on its own.

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        • Originally posted by El Awrence
          It was TOO LARGE an attack for ETA to have ever managed to pull off on its own.
          Kill is easy. Mounting a crowded train, left some small packet in a bin and get out the train at the next station has no difficulty, if you know how to set an alarm clock.
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          • Originally posted by El Awrence
            It was TOO LARGE an attack for ETA to have ever managed to pull off on its own.
            They almost managed to do it three times, but police prevented it. We shouldn´t dicard colaboration.
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            • One fact for reflection: AlQaeda has always used kamikaze people, not bombs inside bags.
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              • Originally posted by OliverFA
                One fact for reflection: AlQaeda has always used kamikaze people, not bombs inside bags.
                Maybe one or more al Qaeda people were on the trains, or alternatively maybe they're running out of trained operatives and need to conserve them.
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                • This is a tragic day for Spain and for the whole of the European Union and the world. There is no doubt that all of the EU will stand by Spain and provide any help there is, as all of the other 14 leaders of the EU have already said. I'm sure all of us felt that this could have easily have been our city.

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                  • 3/11, 9/11?

                    If it's Al Qaeda, I wonder if there is some kind of significance... Qur'an passages? I know didley**** about the Qur'an.

                    What day was the Bali bombing on? That was a bad one too.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • The SER Radio from Spain is talking about a kamikaze (suiced bombers). I think Al Qaeda is the responsible for this attack... but perhaps they did it with the help of ETA.
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                      • I don't think al Qaeda has always used suicide bombers. That just was just a byproduct of using airplanes as weapons. The WTC bombing in '93 was not a suicide bombing. Ditto the embassy bombings in '98.

                        All this shows is that American security seems to have diverted new attacks to Europe.
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                        • I had written a reply to Winston here, but I deleted it again because it's a touchy issue and I don't want to upset anybody.
                          Last edited by Monk; March 11, 2004, 19:48.

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                            • I´m not surprised that the SER supports the kamikaze theory...
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                              • Originally posted by OliverFA
                                I´m not surprised that the SER supports the kamikaze theory...
                                Why?
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