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  • The problem of outsourcing: what should be done?

    Recent as you guys all probably know outsourcing has been more and more prominent. The newest figures show the trade deficit at an all time high of $43 billion. We've seen a recovery for a long time now, but still we are not seeing more jobs recovered. In fact, were it not for people giving up looking for work and public sector hirings, the unemployment rate would have risen significantly. There are now more then 400 companies that have labor done overseas, and it seems more and more fields such as accounting and even law jobs are being exported overseas.

    The orthodox economic wisdom would be to simply wait for more job to arrive, that it is good if services that can be done more efficiently abroad are done abroad, and that the excess labor can open up new more productive fields. Still it seems worrying, so quickly after manufacturing jobs fled the country and destroyed many well-paying blue collar jobs, more and more service, white-collar, and technical jobs are being sent abroad. Some economists have posited that with the factors of production being more mobile then ever, that production will simply move more and more to where an absolute advantage can be found; which in more and more cases seems to be the third world.

    Still, beyond doing nothing, there hasn't been nearly as many proposed solutions to the problem as mentions of it. And there is of course the problem that if we did encourage more expensive US labor to be used when third world labor could be used, and other first world countries use third world labor, we risk that they get an advantage over us. So what do you guys think, if anything, should be done about this?
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    1st thing, get rid of Bush.
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    • #3
      Specialization? I know for one thing that the more rudimentary tax returns get shipped overseas to be done by pseudo-professionals. Perhaps U.S. companies need to learn how to be more specialized and not just the historic mass producers they have always been.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Frankychan
        1st thing, get rid of Bush.
        YEAH! because that'll solve EVERYTHING...

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        • #5
          Introduce a tax for inappropriate profit:employee count ratio?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Frankychan
            1st thing, get rid of Bush.
            I didn't mean for this to be a political thread, rather an economics thread of what policies if any should be used to correct the problem, rather then whether Bush or Kerry should be put into power to solve it.
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            • #7
              If anyone mentions the idea of "stakeholders" I'll crush your head with my index finger and thumb...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

                YEAH! because that'll solve EVERYTHING...
                Heck yes it would.

                And not to steer this into the political realm Shi, but if you look at the administrations policies, they say outsourcing is a good idea!---while also saying that "outsourcing is bad". Two-faced? You bet.

                But to get this into an economic discussion....what about giving tax breaks to incentivise companies to keep their jobs in the U.S.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Frankychan
                  Heck yes it would.
                  and if the same phrase wasn't repeated every election cycle it might hold some water.

                  and what kind of tax incentives? They would have to be huge to cover the cost savings in wages.

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                  • #10
                    Be the good capitalists you are and do nothing.
                    I mean....if the US can't keep its jobs in an open market, then why does it deserve them?
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                    • #11
                      You know.....

                      to respect Shi Huangdi's thread, I won't turn this political.....

                      ....as for your second question/statement. I'm not an economist, I'm just trying to promote discussion.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
                        Be the good capitalists you are and do nothing.
                        I mean....if the US can't keep its jobs in an open market, then why does it deserve them?
                        As much as I don't like this, I have to agree. You made your bed, now lie in it. That's what sucks when you have a laissez-faire market.

                        EDIT: But I still think some sort of tax break would help the companies in some way.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Frankychan
                          You know.....

                          to respect Shi Huangdi's thread, I won't turn this political.....

                          ....as for your second question/statement. I'm not an economist, I'm just trying to promote discussion.
                          Thank you.
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                          • #14
                            Perhaps a propoganda campaign could be of some value? In the past our automotive industry was given relief agaisnt foreign imports with a strong "buy american" campaign. Perhaps if consumers were provided with a list of major outsourcers and encouraged to not buy from them and if a revival of the old "Buy American" campaign were done it could be put to good effect. In some sectors where it is truly more profitable to outsource it may still happen, but perhaps with that and tax incentive it may lead to some marginal firms where the benefit isn't as clear cut to keep jobs in the US?
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                            • #15
                              In the age of Wal-Mart, all consumers care about are low prices.

                              I find it very hypocritical of the US....They went around the world, overthrowing democracies and killing thousands to defend capitalism and now they whine when jobs leave their nation.
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